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Name Buspar, Bespar, Busirone, Ansial
Generic name Buspirone
Manufacturer Bristol-Myers Squibb
First used in 1986 (Approved by FDA)
Family azaspirodecanediones or azapirones
Indications GAD, Insomnia, Depression, OCD, Substance Abuse


How does it work? Stand-alone buspirone is used treat mild anxiety. Unlike benzodiazepines, buspirone has no anticonvulsant or muscle relaxant properties. It is also less habit forming than benzodiazepines, and it has a longer onset of action. Buspirone may augment antidepressants and potentiate their effects.

Side effects: Dizziness, headache, drowsiness, nausea, fatigue.

Resources:
http://www.noah-health.org/english/illness/mentalhealth/cornell/medications/buspar.html
http://www.driesen.com/buspirone.htm



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#10014 by phil
i must be the only one on this medication, watch this space incase i go nuts, any info welcome, phil

New to me by Staci
I haven't started taking this however I'm getting it filled this week. Does anyone have any advice?   Thanks   (Wed Mar 23 1:16 2005)

Buspar by chrisstep2
I've been on Buspar for a year.  I was scared to start taking it, but once I did, I had no side affects at all, except a bit of diarrhea at first (compensated for that by eating bananas).  People I'm close to on a daily basis noticed I was more "mellow" right away.  It just takes the edge off, without any drugged feelings.  Good Luck   (Wed Mar 30 10:46 2005)

BUSPAR HOW IT AFFECTS FETUS. by DEBBIE ANN HARRIS
            I,ve    been   on    Buspar    for   6yrs.   I  recently  becamed   married   1yr.  from  this  June.  We  want  a  baby  boy/girl. Is  Buspar   safe   to  be  on  when   concieving  a baby.    

buspar by deb
I have been on buspar for about 4 years.First started taking it for panic attacks driving.  It definitly takes the edge off for me. And I feel more even toned most of the time.  also had thyroid cancer 4 years ago and it really helped me get through that  difficult time.  I think it has a lot less side effects then some of the other Anti Depresssents.  I usually just get a little tired right after i take it , but that passess after about  30 Minutes. It has been great for me.      (Thu May 19 21:54 2005)

Buspar by Pamela
I got my presciption filled today and i am afraid to take it.  I also take Klonopin and Lexapro.  Does anyone have any information for me??   (Tue May 31 20:23 2005)

Buspar by Danny
I began taking Buspirone (Buspar) recently and also take Celexa for social anxiety and depression (PTSD).  I suggest taking these meds. with milk if any indigestion symptons occur.  Initial loose bowels that declined untill dosage was increased. Drowsiness and disrupted sleep have remained.  Night vision has been impaired significantly.  Anxiety has decreased but leaving security of home remains difficult.  I hope this helps someone..   (Fri Jun 24 0:51 2005)

Scared by Sarah
I have had so many averse reactions to mental medications that I am afraid to take Buspar. Last time they gave me a anti-depressent and an anti-anxiety medication together I was spinning in circles and laughing uncontrolably and then crawling on the floor screaming the next.  I'm not on anti-depressents any more.  But still.  You can imagine my anxiety over the anti-anxiety medication.   (Wed Aug 24 0:47 2005)

it works! by kk
I am on zoloft for ptsd,ocd, and anxiety.
Also lorazapan for panic attacks. A friend
gave me 15 mgs of Buspar and it worked better
than the lorazapan. Is it ok to take it only
when needed for pa   (Wed Jul 6 4:42 2005)

buspar by laf
I have now taken buspar for a year and it really does work. seroquel is also helping.    (Fri Sep 2 4:27 2005)

Ifind buspar really good for anxiety,aggitation,cipramil helps my depression,buspar,seoquel,cipramil has really got me back on my feet, half way up the hill.   (Fri Sep 2 4:33 2005)

I find buspar really good for anxiety,aggitation,cipramil helps my depression,buspar,seoquel,cipramil has really got me back on my feet, half way up the hill.   (Fri Sep 2 4:33 2005)

#14664 by Andie
I am currently taking Effexor and having some side effects of sweating and wondered if anyone has had that with buspar?  The sweating is out of control, difficult sleeping etc.  Initially the effexor was great but the sweating is beginning to pose a problem...any help?   (Wed Aug 31 15:48 2005)

buspar by Jake
has anyone had increased anxiety in the first month of taking it.  It seems to be helping now i think i need to get the doctor to adjust the dosage.  Im taking 15mg a day.  i hope it works.   (Mon Sep 5 15:26 2005)

Buspar by Bridget
Is Buspar anythng at all like a xanex? My mom started taking this recently and it was because her friend told her it was like taking a xanex. any info. would be greatly appreciated.   (Mon Sep 12 14:51 2005)

Buspar by Jackie
Just given rx today.  Was told it is less addictive with fewer side effects generally than other anti-anxiety meds (was on Paxil before).  Was told it can take a while for the full effect.  Not to take with Xanax.  Starting off small, 5mg to build up.  I feel a little "weird" after taking the first pill.  Actually, I feel like I did when I was weaning off Paxil.  Hope THAT changes!   (Wed Sep 14 18:14 2005)

I began taking Buspar a week ago and have noticed a persistent ringing in my ears and a general feeling of being a little out of it. I hope this passes soon. My husband says I seem spacey and it does seem to take more effort to get excited about anything these days.   (Thu Sep 15 13:00 2005)

BusPar by Dave
I have been taking Buspar for just over four weeks.  How long does it useually take to start working.  Im still having panic attacks 3 times a week for hours.  Benzo's(Valium, Ativan) only work on  very high dosage's for me now if at all, because I had built a tolerance.  I see my Dr in two days.  He keeps mentioing this anti-depressant Manerix?  Anyone know anything about the Buspar or manerix fill me in please.  later   (Mon Sep 19 4:54 2005)

BUSPAR by Ray
Dave, Buspar is less effective if you have ever taken benzo's or so my Doc tells me, You might think about uping the dose to somewhere in the 60 mg a day range, if your doc will permit, it has done wonders for me when combined with welbutrin, bc it is my dopamine that is messing me up.........   (Tue Sep 27 12:44 2005)

#15609 by heather
I have really bad panic attacks. I am pretty much a hermit. I am going to start taking buspa r I am really freaked about it. buspar won't make me out of it like i'm on drugs will it?   (Wed Sep 28 17:04 2005)

Day 4 by Julie
Well, After night 1, I decided to take it only in the a.m. before teaching. I felt GREAT the 2nd and 3rd day. No side effects at all. Then...TODAY I lost it with my class for not much at all. I started crying right in front of them and coudl nto stop for the first time ever. I felt like I had no control. In fact, this crying without being able to stop has NEVER happened to me before. I was so angry with my students. I had to go outside and breath a while. Now...I am scared to take it ever again. I wanted something to help a little. Not turn me into something worse. I read what you all write about other drugs you have tried and all of your symptoms and I feel that maybe my doctor jumped the gun so to speak giving me anything at all. I have only had 1 small panic attack in my entire life. I am just so drastically HIGH STRUNG and anxious that it affects those myself as well as everyone around me. Maybe I didn't need drugs...?  What do you all think. Please someone give me your opinion.    (Fri Oct 28 18:29 2005)

The book I was talking about is called Optimum Nutrition for the Mind, by Patrick Holford. I read a bit of it and it's very easy to read.  If your like me and the drugs are not giving any relief, maybe this will help. I'm not against taking drugs at all, but it is so scary when they make you worse and you feel so helpless.  I feel this might be a step to take control myself and these horrible feelings.  I have the Buspar and I will try it if this anxiety gets worse.  But I think the things that are talked about in this book might be worth a try. I hope this helps somebody.    (Sat Oct 29 14:01 2005)

Toc by Julie
Hi Tara,
I have used Kava Kava before and though it does work, it HAS been PROVEN to cause serious helath problems. This is probably why it has been taken off your shelves. I worry about Buspar but I KNOW Kava Kava is dangerous.  I have actually been down to the herb shop in town and they have lots of herbal anxiety remedies, however, the lady told me that I would need several of them for a real effect and this would be cost almost 150 dollars a month. I have also read that herbal remedies are not always better for you. Putting the words herbal and natural in the name of a product is a marketing scheme here to get consumers to purchase the item with the hopes that it is "safe".  What do you think?   (Sat Oct 29 15:47 2005)

Buspar by Mike
Dizziness, head rushes-irritable and confrontational. took for 1 month- took a year for the side effects to clear up-doctor prescribed as a method to quit smoking, didn't work. quit 2 years later with out it. I iused a nicotene alternative and decreased doses.   (Fri Sep 30 23:10 2005)

I'm an RN. During a very rough time in my life, the shrink I
was seeing had me on Xanax. I was eventially addicted
and had to be hospitalized for withdrawal. The hospital
psychiatrist told me about BuSpar and I did my research.
After release I was on BuSpar for about 4 years and it
worked great. Please do yourselves a big favor and get off
any benzodiazapines like Xanax...DO NOT STOP
ABRUPTLY, tho and check with your MD. I eventually
tapered off the BuSpar and now only take it occasionally. I
also take Lexapro regularly for depression. I have a
severe, rare type of arthritis. My current psychiatrist and
psychologists both agree that if I wasn't depressed and
anxious, then they really would be worried about me.
Always remember that each person is unique biologically
and psychologically. BuSpar has the least amount of side
effects and is not prone to addiction. It is for relief of
anxiety, not an antidepressant per se. If you found this
site then you also probably have done your research for
BuSpar and your other meds. Continue taking control of
your own healthcare like that and good luck.   (Sun Oct 2 17:41 2005)

Hi Julie, would you not try something herbal? If you have only had a small panic attack maybe taking Kava Kava and I have also read about 5 HTP, which is short for hydrotryptophan.  You should go to a vitamin shop and check it out.  I live in Ireland and they have taken that stuff off the shelves here.  But I was in NY in May and got a bottle of Kava Kava and it is definitely making a difference. There is also a book that has been out here that explains the different herbs and amino acids that helps anxiety.  It has been around a while and I am today going down to the book shop to get it. It explains all about eating certain foods and vitamins and herbs to help people with different kinds of mental problems.  I will post the name and author later.  You should also look into breathing tecniques, I think its called cognitive therapy.  If I lived in NY that is exactly what I would do. And if you find they're not helping at all at least when you stop there is no withdrawals or side effects.  I hope this helps you.  All the best, Tara   (Sat Oct 29 8:41 2005)

Works for Me by Chip
I have been taking Buspar on and off for 8 years.  I quit taking it for about six months and just started again last week.  After the third day my boss popped his head in my office and told me that I seem a lot more relaxed and less agitated.  I also find that I am nicer to people.  This medicataion has really helped me and the Generic is a lot less expensive.  At WalMart it is like 30 bucks a month.  I take 15 mg three times a day.  Any side effects are so minor that I do not notice them.     (Sun Oct 9 2:54 2005)

Question by Jacob
I get terrible panic attacks...feels like Im dying - especially when Im in the car or any tight space for a long time.  I got put on Luvox and it helped a lot but there are definately some sexual side effects :(  My doctor just gave me prescription for Buspar to counter those side effects as well as help the Luvox work more effectivly.  Anyone else hear about Buspar helping with sexual side effects of other medicines?   (Tue Oct 11 16:43 2005)

I have been taking buspar for almost 4 years. I started
taking it in the middle of my pregnancy, and i continued
to take it for the two years that i nursed my child. It is a
very safe drug. I was recommended that was a safe drug
to take, and it was, my son has no problems at all.   (Fri Oct 14 22:48 2005)

Effexor is an excellent drug to combat anxiety - however, sweating can be a severe side effect.  UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES should you stop taking this medication without your doctor's help.  The withdrawal is worst than BENZOS because it works on 3 different brain chems.  Withdrawal symptoms can last up to 6 mos. and are very unpleasant.  Good luck, God bless.   (Sat Oct 15 13:11 2005)

I suffer from GAD and my doctors have had me on Paxil, Effexor, Lustral, Cipramil and the latest was Gamanil (a tri-cyclic) all of these only heightened my feelings of anxiety and agitation. I stumbled onto this site and it has given me a bit of hope, as its not a tricyclic or an SSRI.  They dont agree with me. My doctor says this is one of the old drugs and just dismissed it when I asked for the prescription.  I insisted and I'm getting it tomorrow. I'm still not sure what dose she's prescribing. Any and all info would be much appreciated. I live in hope for some relief to these horrible feelings. Its good to know there are others that feel like i do. The note from Kelly was the clincher for me. I'll write again about how i get on.    (Tue Oct 18 16:31 2005)

I go and talk with my dr. next week about starting on a new depression med. I have tried paxil,zoloft & effexor with no luck.I couldn't tell that they did anything to help and I was on them for adequate time.As of last week I have even more stress and severe depression in my life since my husband walked out on me.I have severe depression.I can't eat,sleep or do daily functions.This is always on my mind.Any suggestions on what i can take to help.I was looking into prozac maybe.Any suggestions are appreciated,thanks!   (Fri Oct 21 17:50 2005)

buspar by james
i have been taking buspar for about 2 months now but  i am still anxious and i am getting bad dreams etc and a lot moody swings etc and not to much sleep i am ttaking 30 millagrams in the morning once a day does anyone have the same feelings ?   (Mon Oct 24 21:46 2005)

XANAX & BUSPAR by JACK BUTLER
I also became addicted to xanax before doctors realized the potential for that.  terrible time getting off of it.  worst time i'd ever had.  a real lesson learned about addiction.  i've tried buspar in the past and initially had very good results,  but the effect did not repeat itself when i went off and then back on again.  i am trying it again starting today and will check in here in a few weeks to update my progress (or lack thereof).   (Tue Oct 25 0:58 2005)

BuSpar by Julie
I just got my Buspar filles today and I am looking at the bottle afraid to take it. I have never taken ANYTHING for anxiety. I read an article tonight that said that Buspar binds to domphamine receptors in the brain and causes pseudo-parkinsonism or drug induced Parkinson's disease. Help?   (Tue Oct 25 18:56 2005)

I started taking buspar about seven years ago when a co-worker noticed my face turned red after a boss approached me---it was the year I had been in a car accident and I had recently been through some other stessful events.  For several months I only took 5mg and even that amount took the edge off. I increased the dose to 7.5 mg and did great for a few years. After working in a University setting serving huge amounts of professsors as a secretary, I had to increase to 15mg a day after about two months on the job.  I have lasted  3 years on this job, and done quite well inspite of the incredible under-staffing. (I am now quitting, because it really is too much stress though since they refuse to re-hire when someone leaves. The buspar takes the edge off for me. I take one pill at bedtime.  I am more focused at work, buspar helps me complete a job rather than jumping around so much and I don't get (as) upset when 50 million people simultaneously ask me to do perform a duty. (Someone should do a study on what it is like to receive your work by email notes from 50 people daily instead of an "in" basket on your desk). I would not have been able to stay on this job for 3 years, had it not been for the buspar. When I first started taking it, I could feel stuff shifting around in my head, but I don't feel that much any more.  It makes me a little sleepy shortly after taking it, but this wears off. If you drink, be careful.  I seldom drink, but when I went to a conference with a bunch of Europeans who had wine every night, I cut my dose from the 15 mg to 5mg for the entire week of the conference and did fine with the 1 glass of wine with dinner.
Good luck to everyone!  Linda   (Wed Oct 26 2:25 2005)

I have been on Buspar, 10 mg, for three weeks now and I feel I am worse than ever.  I have uncontrollable crying spells, feelings of helplessness and severe panic attacks.  My Dr. said it could take up to 6 weeks to work. Any similar stories or advice? I am desparate!   (Wed Oct 26 14:07 2005)

Has anyone else read anything about the negative effects of BuSpar? Not side effects but long term damage.

Also, I took my first last night and I woke up every single hour. I felt so wierd and out of it. I was grading papers when it kicked in and I swear I felt like I couldn't move my arms.    (Wed Oct 26 20:01 2005)

I still haven't taken my Buspar. I have had such horrible side effects from the other meds I have tried, I have to work myself up to do this.  I have been taking Kava-Kava twice a day to take the edge off and also B-Complex, also cut back big time on coffee. Some days I don't even have it, and I love my freshly brewed STRONG coffee.  I have to say I am definitely feeling better.  The Kava kava definitely takes the edge off for me. Unfortunately I live in Ireland, where kava kava, st.johns wort, and a lot of the herbal remedies of that type have been taken off our shelves. I got the bottle I have while in NY. Anyway I will post again when I finally take it.  Good Luck to all!   (Thu Oct 27 18:40 2005)

new to buspar by megan
i've been on many meds for anxiety/panic attacks..lexapro,celexa,prozac,effexor, and more..i always felt like i didn't have any real "feelings", so i always stopped taking them.  I just took my first buspar 5mg tonight.  At first I felt good, very relaxed but when i went out to the store I felt awful, very nervous(like usual), but way out of it..i hear this is a normal feeling, but when does it end? i'm scared to take it tomorrow, for fear of feeling so out of it and kinda scared again...any info would be really helpful..i just want to feel better, as soon as possible..   (Fri Oct 28 0:54 2005)

good results by alex
I have been taking buspar for 3 years now and have had very good results. I took it by itself for the first year and a half, but when I went to college I began having panic attacks and other physical symptoms. My doctor recommended I take Theanine (an amino acid that calms the central nervous system I believe), and I have been taking 100mg of Theanine with 15mg buspar twice daily and I rarely get panic attacks anymore and find my anxiety manageable.   (Fri Oct 28 4:19 2005)

Hi again. Try to get that book, I think you'll find it quite interesting. Believe me, i'm all for whatever works.  Be it conventional medicine or homeopathic. He does address the issue of Kava kava being bad for you. He disputes this, I wont go into his reasoning, you'd be better off reading it and come to your own conclusion. If you want to email me my email is taratralee@msn.com.  We can discuss it further if you like. We're in the same boat so to speak. Today I feel good, that could all change tomorrow. I will say I found that book most interesting and I have an uncle coming home from ny and I will get him to get me more kava kava and that 5htp. What the hell I've tried everything else! I hope to hear from you. All the Best, Tara   (Sun Oct 30 14:33 2005)

HELP ! by MEGAN
i took one dose of buspar and felt awful, my Dr. said to stop taking it if i had such an awful reaction to it...so now i am starting lexapro 10 mg...i am so nervous, i don't want to feel worse..i am depressed because i have not been to any of my classes in 2 weeks and i am on a temp. "leave" from work..i have not been out with my friends and i am ignoring nice guys i've met for dates...everyone probably thinks i'm a bitch or i'm crazy..i just want to be able to leave my house without having a huge panic attack, i want to drive my car, i want to have a life...anyone ever been on lexapro and had bad/good results? also..can you drink with this med? i like going out with my friends for some beers on the weekends..how will it affect me? what can or will happen? is it really hurtful? please someone w/b so i can understand some more...thank u :)   (Mon Oct 31 1:47 2005)

I've been on paxil 6 months, seroquel for almost two months, and buspar for two weeks. My  anxiety is not as bad, but I still have muscle spasms on my right side? Mainly hip and rib cage?? It is driving me bonkers. I've found that marijuana helps too. Any advice on muscle spasms?   (Mon Oct 31 11:26 2005)

There is a book called Nutritional Healing by Dr. Phyllis Balch and Dr. James Balch. This book helped me alot but I lost it when I moved recently. You might be surprised at how it can help you. Good luck :)    (Mon Oct 31 11:40 2005)

to LEE by Megan
thank u for the advice! i will be looking into that this week! have a good day..thank u    (Mon Oct 31 12:49 2005)

Lexapro by Ann
I tried lexapro and had an aweful reaction.  It was like an anxiety attack X5.  Try a 1/2 tablet first.  I say that because I know others that LOVE IT.  I think you probably need to go slowly.     (Mon Oct 31 16:06 2005)

I was told by my therapist that my doctor would give me s prescribtion for buspar, but instead I got Effexor XR.  I know nothing about effexor xr and don't want to take anything.  But was all set to take the buspar. Curly help   (Tue Nov 1 21:34 2005)

Curly by Julie
I have never heard of that. I didn't want to take the BusPar but I did and now I feel worse....   (Wed Nov 2 6:37 2005)

Buspar by Jan
Hi I've been taking Buspar for about a month now. I have anxiety and panic while driving.  I take 15mg a day and it helped me so much that I feel normal for the first time in years. I tried Paxil and Zolof but had bad reaction to it. Helped the firt week and now I have complete benifit after about 3 weeks.    (Wed Nov 2 12:40 2005)

buspar detox by roni
has anyone stopped taking it? what were your reactions?can i just cut down and then stop?   (Thu Nov 3 9:59 2005)

Buspar-Anxiety by Carolyn F
I have had anxiety for the past 5 months and have been on Buspar for about 2 mos. and have not noticed significant change in anxiety.  Has anyone noticed that is took longer than 6 weeks?  I have recently started to take yoga and it helps out and I'm not anxious at that time.  However, like many others I tried lexapro - bothered my stomach, and I have been taking ativan at least 1 a day, but don't want to get addicted.  However, it immediately takes the edge off -- anything else that may help in taking the edge off that is safe? Lastly, I went through having every test imaginable to find out I had anxiety.  Does anyone have tightness in other muscles besides neck/shoulders.  Sometimes my whole left side gets tight from face down to foot.   (Thu Nov 3 16:20 2005)

Tight Muscles by Julie
YES!! I get so tight and tense that my muscles tingle and it feels like I can get no relief. I haven't been able to find anything that helps and I have even been to a physical therapist. My Buspar seemed liek I felt different the first two days and now I am worse than I have ever been. ??? I get angry now instead of anxious. i mean, I get REALLY ticked off at everything and I am crying all the time. I was NEVER this way before. This Buspar has about three more days and it is going in the trash. I was better before.   (Thu Nov 3 19:34 2005)

I've been suffering from generalized anxiety for over a year now, and have been fighting so hard to avoid taking medications because I am very fearful of the consequences. Really, I drive myself nuts worrying about what might happen if I take something to stop my worrying. This is the first place I have ever posted anything, and it's amazing to see other people describe what I'm going through. Recently, I'm at a point where I feel like I will ruin my life by pushing everyone away because I get so anxious about losing them. I've got an amazing boyfriend who just doesn't know how to deal with my breakdowns. Any advice on how to help my relationships while I struggle with myself? Anyone else more anxious by the thought of anxiety meds?   (Sat Nov 5 13:34 2005)

Kava kava by toc
I have to say i find the kava kava brilliant.  It is really helping me through a bad patch of anxiety and panic. I have heard that kava kava is bad for your liver, but I also read that the enzyme your liver uses to break down the kava is also used when breaking down other drugs and alcohol.  Therefore you shouldn't be taking other drugs while using the kava kava.  You can have a liver function test periodically to check if your liver is being damaged.  Its done through a blood test.  I wonder how the anti depressants and anxiety medication affects the liver.  I think all drugs affect the liver to a certain degree.  I kind of feel there is a lot of scaremongering going on about the use of kava kava. I think you need to use common sense with any drug you take, be it herbal or conventional. I also find valerian excellent, especially at bedtime.    (Sat Nov 5 8:00 2005)

curly by mandy
I've researched effexor.. more aimed for social anxiety. It was what I wanted before buspar, but I recenlty talked to someone who was on it (effexor) and she said it made her worse.. BUT she's been on differant med's for awhile and they say that can mess up your reactions to it. You're just supposed to really watch yourself closely when you first start taking it... Let me know if it works for you.   (Fri Nov 4 13:37 2005)

just to add.. by mandy
I have a crippeling social anxiety with mild depression. I've heard Kava Kava works wonders but is taken off the shelf because it destroys your liver. 5-htp raises saratonin, helping with depression. Would really like Xanax, took it once and fell in love, but almost impossible to get it prescribed because of the addiction you get. Trying to find out about other herbs/prescriptions.. Paxil, Buspar (which overall reading here, sounds like it doesn't really help), Effexor, um... heard valeriun root helps?.. Calanapin? Anyone who has any advice or suggestions would be great... Thanks    (Fri Nov 4 13:47 2005)

to MANDY by megan
Lexapro has helped me wonders thus far...i suffer from panic attack and anxiety..so far so good- maybe you should give it a try :)  good luck..buspar didnt work for me, i had a bad reaction- but each med works different for each person, you gotta see what's best for u...keep your head up :)   (Fri Nov 4 14:44 2005)

buspar by lori
i just started taking buspar for anxiety i also have ocd and depression i have took several meds in the past paxil prozac luvox lexapro and more that i cant remember.i understand some of the peoples notes i have read on this site about afraid to try different meds because of fear that it will make you worse. i have those feelings myself. however you have to try because otherwise you will never have the possiblity of getting better. and just tell yourself that if its to bad you can always go to emergency at the hospital and they will give you somthing to save you from freaking out. so take the risk its better than suffering the rest of your life.   (Fri Nov 4 14:49 2005)

cymbalts by elizabeth
i was on effexor and found it not to be as effective so i was switched to cymbalta. this is approved for depression but not anxiety although it has helped me for my anxiety. My doc prescribed it for the anxiety.   (Fri Nov 4 20:46 2005)

thyroid by elizabeth
has anyone developed hypothroid problems once antidepressant treatment began? symptoms of weight gain,fatigue, dry skin were my symptoms.  I spelled cymbalta wrong previously. it is cymbalta. buspar has worked well for me but i feel like it needs to be in combination with an effective antidepressant.
   (Fri Nov 4 20:50 2005)

buspar by Donna
Buspar- cant sleep good...I feel like I wake up after 5 hrs. of taking it at night, and then its on and off thru out the night.   (Sat Nov 5 18:50 2005)

Yes, you describes me exactly. I took my first prescription for one week and it is in the trash. I was better before...   (Sat Nov 5 18:55 2005)

Efexor by Karen
Anybody w/ positive results from this drug?  I have been on paxil for OCD and Depression.  I was having many good periods but just as many relapses.  My Doc just started me on Efexor today.  Any positive feed back would be great hope!   (Sat Nov 5 22:57 2005)

Hostility by Janine
I am so glad I found this site!  I started Buspar about 3 weeks ago - have been on Paxil for 4 years and it worked great - had to stop b/c of sexual side effects (husband had finally had enough!)  Now I have been so hostile - he's afraid to come close to me! I flip out for no apparant reason - far different from anxiety I had b/f - My Question:  Do these side effects eventually go away - or do I need to find something else?     (Sun Nov 6 9:04 2005)

Janine by Julie
I asked a pyschiatrist on webmd.com about the BuSpar and she said that anger and hostility was a rare but serious side effect that meant that I should not be on this particular medication. I am a 4th grade teacher for crying out loud. Anger and hostility or should I say flipping out for no reason is NOT something I can wait to see if it will go away.     (Sun Nov 6 21:07 2005)

Julie by Janine
Julie, thank you so much for that info - I am a college professor and really don't need to be hostile either!  I also have toddlers at home - I've heard enough, I'm off the Buspar...Thank you so much!   (Mon Nov 7 9:32 2005)

Janine by Julie
Just for a joke between us...I never needed anxiety medication until I became an educator. : )    (Mon Nov 7 16:03 2005)

muscle spasms by Catherine
I suffered l0 yrs. with severe spasms in chest,rib, back and legs.  Finally, my Dr. put me on Quinine tablets; l at bedtime every night.  I have been spasm free in all areas for 2 years now.  It is wonderful!  I was not able to even bend to put socks on without severe spasms.  Try it.  It really works.  Took about l month to be spasm free.   (Mon Nov 7 20:26 2005)

effexor xr by kathy
karen-i've been on effexor xr since jan '05, & after a month i had a noticeable improvement at a 150mg dose. due to increasing difficulties with a sick child, i didn't improve anymore & began to feel depressed & pretty anxious again. my dr. increased my dose to 225mg about 6 weeks ago and it has really helped alot. i feel like i have my life back again. i will be going to a 300mg dose soon because i do still have some anxiety, but it is much more managable. effexor has been a Godsend to me. i hope this helps. hang in there-it can take 4-6 weeks to feel the effects.   (Mon Nov 7 22:05 2005)

kellie, i understand your fear of taking meds. i was so afraid of how the meds would make me feel-like what if it caused me to lose control & panic even more & then i'd be trapped-it was so bad that i couldn't even take cold medicine. what helped stop my panic attacks was a book called "hope and help for your nerves" by dr. claire weekes. it is an older book, but explains clearly what was going on in my body & how the anxiety/panic was just excess adrenaline. the panic attacks stopped in my early twenties. i am now 41, & have depression, GAD & social phobia, but with taking effexor i feel well enough to actually benefit from therapy. i also take trazadone to help sleep at night, and have xanax on hand if my anxiety level gets too much. i would encourage you to give antidepressants a try, & don't give up if you have any uncomfortable side effects at first- they usually subside before you begin to get relief from the meds & if you can grit your teeth & stick with it long enough to feel better, it will be worth it. i felt no hope & no joy, and now i have those in my life & wouldn't change that for anything. good luck to you. i'll keep you in my prayers. P.S. another good book is "feeling good" by dr. david burns (about cognitive behavior therapy-very helpful).   (Mon Nov 7 22:41 2005)

Anxiety by Tazha
I have been on them all and the side effects are worse than the problem.  I started Buspar 6 days ago and I feel like yuck!!!!  Prozac worked great for 2 weeks then it built up and that was it!!!!   (Tue Nov 8 1:05 2005)

Hoping by Al
kathy, I have the same things going on like you and I also have that book. (Great book), but I'm right now on pexeva med? was on buspar but made me all kinds of things from sick to my stomach to dizzy ect, but did work at a very high dose if you can get pass that point. Has any one heard of pexeva?       (Thu Nov 10 15:47 2005)

I take 30 MG every 12 hours and at 10:00 PM
I freek.  I get claustrophobic, my anxiety
rises so high that I can't breathe and have
an irrestable desire to go to a mall or
Target to get a dose of canned air.  Even
though i feel some relief my panic and
anxiety are still in control of my life.  
Does anyone have a suggestion as to a good
partner drug to help control this disorder?  
Currentlly I have to take 3 1/2 doses of
Ambien to fall assleep.  I may get 4-6 hours
of sleep, but there have been stretches of
time where I have been up for days!  Zofran
helps and Hydromophone keeps the headaches
from getting out of control, but the panic
is terrible and the "Night Terror" is the
worst.   (Thu Nov 10 16:20 2005)

#17363 by jackie
Have you tried any AD's? Al   (Thu Nov 10 16:39 2005)

#17364 by Al
Sorry about that jackie.   (Thu Nov 10 16:40 2005)

Hi Jackie, it sounds like your going through hell.  If you go to the bottom of this page and click FORUM, you will get to a page that usually gets a response straight away.  And from a good few people.  When you go to it you will see what I'm talking about.  The best of luck to you, Tara   (Thu Nov 10 16:50 2005)

I am having a terrible time losing the weight I have gained over the past 2 years. I am using this drug due to panic attacks and anxiety disorder. Is there a drug out there that won't cause weight gain? Please help...................   (Thu Nov 10 20:14 2005)

When I wrote about my Ambien dose I ment it
to read that I take 1/2 a pill, 1-1 1/2
hours later I take another 1/2 pill.  I wake
up at 3 or 4 AM and take another half.  This
can sometimes be the dose that lets me sllep
till 8 and sometimes 10 AM.  But how I wrote
it, made it sound like i was taking 3 and
1/2 pills!  That isn't possible.  One whole
pill makes me feel terrible, I can't imagine
the damage mare than 3 would do.  I am sorry
for that fuzzyness of fact.     (Fri Nov 11 13:43 2005)

buspar by donna
i started buspar 2 weeks ago I felt weird at first but now I feel better   (Fri Nov 11 16:38 2005)

AD? by Jackie
Al, because I am pregnant there havn't been
many suggestions about AD's.  Do you suggest
anything? I treid taking 1 25MG capsule of
Nortriptyline  at night.  Terrible thoughts,
terrible reactions.  Luckily I was able to
get off of it quickly.  I tried exchanging
the Ambien for Hydroxyzine and had a nearly
equal terrible experience.  The Buspar is
the only med. that I stayed with that I have
any hope for alieviationg these horrible
feelings.  I too have had real anger
explosions, and Still fell claustraphobic
and have panic.  I also can't eat.  I have
no interst in food and feel sick to the
bottom of my being.  I vomit every day even
though I take Zofran.   (Sat Nov 12 22:32 2005)

#17578 by long will it take to work? by BillI
THERAPY!!Therapy and meds are better than one or the other singly.  and a second opinion, buspar doesn't seem like it's appropriate for what you are experiencing.   (Mon Nov 14 23:54 2005)

Does anyone know anything about Minor Tranqs (klonopin, buspar, xanax etc etc) and long term usage causing Brain Atrophy? I too, suffer...tried everything..been there, done that..now I gotten worry that all the 'drugs'
I've been prescribed are going to cause me to have permanent changes. WHY should I take anything???? (The cure is worse than the disease)   (Wed Nov 16 17:43 2005)

Nutrition by David
Hello!.Just found this site while researching 5-HTP. Have been studying nutrition and wellbeing for some years.MORE nutrition,water,fruit/veg,exercise,sunlight,fresh air,LESS toxins,chemicals,radiation,processed food,processed drinks,sugar,salt,stress would be a basic start and should help everyone!. If you feel that I can be of help please let me know. David.   (Thu Nov 17 14:48 2005)

Hi David, I would be interested in hearing your opinion on 5-HTP.  I have taken it but did not keep it up. I also was taking kava kava.  It definitely helped me with my anxiety.  I sometimes take Valerian to before bed or if i'm feeling stressed.

Tara   (Thu Nov 17 17:17 2005)

benzo withdrawal by Stewart
After taking low dose klonopin for 4 yrs I developed drug tolerance and horiffic( side effects(head electricity,cloudy thinking,pressure headache,photophobia).These continue without relief from ssri's neurontin,gabatriland CBT therapy.Any help?   (Fri Nov 18 20:39 2005)

I've been on antidepressants for the last 11 years.  I've recently weaned myself off of Paxil and felt great for about 3 months.  Then I was experiencing so much anxiety and anger outburts.  I went to the dr. to get back on an antidepressant.  She decided to just put my on Buspar.  I've only been taking it for 1 week but I feel GREAT.  This is the first time I feel normal.  I'm looking forward to life, where I can handle everyday events and not stress out completely all the time.  The is better than any antidepressant that I've ever been on.   (Sat Nov 19 0:18 2005)

Switched by Jackie
I tried working with the Buspar that was
orginally precsribed by an OBGYN who did not
do panic.  She quit me as her docyoer and
the Mid-Wife who followed up increased the
dose to 30 mg 2x a day.  Panic,
Clautrophobia, Sleep deprivation and out
burst of anger had  my husband and my self
asking if we were on the right track, she
looked through us and said she had a
patience who really did need her.  She
walked out of tho door.  MY husband was
furrious at the rejection , but all I caould
do was cry.  A passing Mid-Wife sat down
with me and suggusted that I seek halp at a
lock down medical ward.  I changed Hopitials
immediately, and thet weekend enjoyed
talking to my first real pshchiatrist.  Dr.
Wayne is weening me off the Buspar and has
me taking a wonderful drug called Ativan
(Lorazepam) every 6 hours.  I can sleep on
this medication, take half a dose a go to
work.  I'm not overwhelming claustrophic
anymore and have both my appietite for food
and sex back.  For me this is going to be a
short trip as I plan on having this baby
soon, but it is so nice that It works so
well.  I made an appointmemt with a real
Psychiatrist/Therapist and got in before the
month ends!  Looking up.  Fine tuning and
Firing all those guessing poosers sure gives
me piece of mind.  Familt happier too.   (Sun Nov 20 0:28 2005)

Hey everyone have been taking 20mg of Buspar each day for about 6 months and have had a numbness on the left side of my body for about three months now.  This only happens in the morning when I wake up.  I feel a tightness in my left eye and feel like crap.  Have had all the rule out tests and the doc says it is some sort of migranine headache.  How do you stop taking buspar ???   Do you need to ween yourself off of this stuff ?? I'll await your feedback.  Thanks alot..     (Mon Nov 21 1:54 2005)

To TOC by David
Have read/heard only good things about 5-HTP. It's natural,non-addictive and safe...within (dosage)limits of course!. The only promlem seems to be finding it! David.   (Tue Nov 22 12:48 2005)

Well, my life has been a constant nightmare the last few months. I started out with insomnia, and then I started getting constant chest pains around my sternum area. My doc prescribed Xanax, and that made me EXHAUSTED all the time. Then, I got on Lunesta for the insomnia, and Lexapro. I was still exhausted and out of it all the time, and had no drive for anything. But the chest pains went away. I stopped taking the Lunesta and Lexapro because I thought the sleeping aids were making me drowsy during the day, well, the chest pains came back. So now, I'm on Prozac. The chest pains have gone away again, but now I'm still tired, out of it, and still am not back to normal. The low sex drive is driving me crazy. I'm recently married, my husband is the best thing I have, and I can't believe how patient he is. I'm trying to exercise, but I'm so tired all the time. I'm looking for something that's not going to make me out of it all the time. Someone got any help?
   (Tue Nov 22 14:14 2005)

Get Off It by Jackie
3 days I cut my dosage in half (15 MG twice
daily).  On the 4th day I went to 5 MG twice
a day for 4 days...the end...I don't feel
weird, my doctor started me on Atrivan
before the weening off.  I really feel
pretty good.  My sleep is better on the
Atrivan, that is for sure, and I don't get
the angry spots durring my day.  Like
personality migraines, terrible.  Ask your
doctor.  There is hope.    (Wed Nov 23 21:36 2005)

5htp by David
Buy 5htp at www.iherb.com   (Sun Nov 27 21:55 2005)

Ativan? by Bonnie
Hello.  I have just recently been prescribed ativan.  i don't know what it is, and am wondering if anyone has any experiences with it.  I am also on 100 mg of Zoloft.  I would be grateful if anyone shared their thoughts with me.  Thanks.   (Thu Dec 1 19:45 2005)

My husband started having Panic & Anxiety attacks 2 years ago.  He was put on Paxil.  It seemed to work, but after a few months he went off it, had panic attacks again and was put on Lexapro.  It did not make the panic attacks go away, and made him "medicine headish".  He went back on Paxil, and has been on it for over a year straight.  The Paxil has totally changed his personality - agitated easily, no desire in sex, lack of excitement at all for life.  We are on the doorstep of a divorce after 12 year marriage and 2 children ages 1 & 4.  He does not know why his personality has changed so much and why he has "fallen out of love with his wife". I blame a large part of the problems on his meds, but he is deathly afraid of going off Paxil.  Are there any medicine which do not have such harsh side effects and are not so addictive?     (Sat Dec 3 12:20 2005)

to BONNIE by Megan
hey there..I'm on lexapro, and i also have ativan for when i need it..it's not incredibly strong, but it gets the job done, just get very tired, so when u take it, try to devote time to sleeping..hope all is well and you're feeling better soon! I didn't experience any problems with ativan, i love it...good luck :)   (Sun Dec 4 13:42 2005)

Hi David, thanks for that web site, it would be a great thing if it worked.  I have some and I've started taking it. How about yourself?  Did you order any?   (Sun Dec 4 18:41 2005)

Bonnie/response by Jackie
I would say by the high amount of Zoloft
that you have been perscribed, that  the
treatment of your depression is the #1
issue.  Ativan is for the treatment of panic
disorders and anxiety.  Neither of which
will be covered bt the fabulous Zoloft.  You
have good doctors.  If the panic continues
they may up you to Clonazepam.  This
drug is hard core but works.  It has side
effects that the Ativan doesn't but they
subside with treatment.  I think the
Buspar is a sham.  I really never found
that it worked for me even at 60MG a day.  
And I kicked the stuff in under a week..  
Placebo, people.  Did I spell that
correctly?   (Mon Dec 5 22:05 2005)

There is some truly bad information on this site. Do not rely on these testimonials, some of which sound like complete fabrications. Instead, read the Prescribing Information on buspar, which will describe the ACTUAL side effects and how often they occur.  Also, Buspar usually takes at least 4 weeks to have an effect. "Kicking the stuff" after a week is silly. When used correctly, many people have found it very useful for controlling anxiety without inducing a sedating effect that one gets from many other medications. The lack of sexual side-effects, and the lack of interaction of buspar with alcohol, are all pluses as well.
Bottom line is that, if effective for you, Buspar will help control your anxiety without negatively impacting any other area of your life. Those who are taking benzos should, if allowed by your doctor, wean themselves off benzos, and allow for a few weeks drug-free, before taking Buspar, as benzos seem to diminish Buspar's effectiveness.   (Tue Dec 6 21:31 2005)

#18440 by Be Safe
DO NOT TAKE KAVA KAVA.  It is banned by European countries, and is being investigated by the FDA here.  It causes liver failure, and may have induced coma in one woman who took it simultaneously with Xanax.
"Natural" does not necessarily mean "safe"!!
Always consult with your doctor before taking any herbal supplement.
And beware of online merchants and other interested parties, like Scientologists (remember Tom Cruise's 'anti medication' rant?), placing "false testimonials" on sites like this to either scare you away from medications, or induce you to buy their products.   (Tue Dec 6 21:39 2005)

Myths by Jackie
Wow!  You get to drink on Buspar?  That
is just so cheery and forward thinking.  
Now, a testimonial that allows for the
continoued abuse of alcohol by the
emotionally damaged, just has to get
results!  Way to go.  Either way the stuff is
weak.  Personally I had no control over my
panic on that drug.   And it would appear
that other people are right there with me.  
Most of whom understand that this site is
for personal experience reporting.  You
seem tense.  Get a back rub.  By the way,
I haven't had any side effects that
supressed my sexual desire.  14 years
married and I'm still attacking that man
every chance I get.  You could just be sad.  
Sadness will make you dull and angry.  
Are you sad?   (Wed Dec 7 23:19 2005)

Effexor-yawning by Stacey
My sister has these unconrolable rage spells at
leats a couple times a week. When we finally got
her to the doctor she got Effexor but stoped taking
it after a couple weeks beacause of yawning.  I
think her anger is a result of anxiety but she just
refuses any help. The tole that it's taking on my
family has recently turned abusive, and I know pot  
and alcohol are factors but I'm lost, any
suggestions ? Is there a drug I can suggest that
doesn't make her yawn all the time?
   (Fri Dec 9 14:11 2005)

Buspar by Lisa
I was wondering if anyone has experienced weight gain with this medication. If you have what were you able to do lose it!   (Sun Dec 11 0:38 2005)

hi, i was prescribed buspar for insomnia (dr. says its
anxiety) and after a day and a half i just feel really weird,
shaky, like soda-pop. does this go away? im ready to go
off it rightnow because at least before i felt sane and
clear. even if i had anxiety. thanks.   (Wed Dec 21 16:14 2005)

Reba, Buspar causes insomnia.  You
might want to change doctors.   (Thu Dec 22 18:00 2005)

PAXIL IS EVIL!!! by Jennifer Nicole
Paxil seems to be one of those drugs that the FDA just didn't monitor well enough.  Not only has it been proved to increase suicidal tendencies in teenagers, but in adults it seems to make current conditions, moods and thought processes worse then what they were before taking Paxil.

I have never heard of ANYONE, including myself, say that Paxil was a good drug.  If I  knew how, I would help to get this medication banned.

However, two medications that I do recommend are Zoloft and Zyprexa.

The Zyprexa you take before going to sleep because it does make you EXTREMELY sleepy.  So much, in fact, that I really didn't get out of bed for longer then 4-5 hours a day while I was getting "used" to taking it.

Zoloft, however....there's a medication that does what it says.  

These have just been my experiences and every drug reacts differently with each person.  Of course, be honest with your doctor and ask a lot of questions before deciding what chemicals you will be allowing to float through your bloodstream.

Take care   (Wed Dec 28 13:28 2005)

Buspar by Theo
Any experience increased sexual appitite on Buspar?  Climax too quickly?   (Thu Dec 29 8:39 2005)

hi,i just bought a 5mg box of buspar, but i dont know how to take it,, im going to take one at night,, but ive heard you like should take them 3 times a day ,, can somebody please infor me about the dosage?,, thanks saludos DH   (Mon Jan 2 21:52 2006)

I am currently taking topamax and zoloft for anxiety and
depression.  I have been on too many different meds. to
count or remember anymore for six years now.  I am now
so fed up with the side effects that I am trying to taper off
of my meds.  I was on 200 mg of topamax and have
successfully gone down to 100 mg very easily and was on
75 mg of zoloft and have easily gone down to 50 mg both
in one week.  I feel great and confident to keep decreasing
them.  What I hate about the topamax is that it slows my
mental process.  It takes me longer to do things now than
it ever has in my life.  What I hate about zoloft is that it
completely killed my sexual drive.  Buspar was added to
bring back sexual interest (and it did) but it gave me
insomnia so I got rid of it.  So here I am, my boyfriend
pleading for sex and I have NO DESIRE AT ALL!  I have
tried to force myself to have sex because I love him, but I
can't do it.  It's killing our relationship and I hate the side
effects so I'm getting rid of my meds and hoping for the
best.    (Tue Jan 3 22:32 2006)

hey all, i started taking buspar yesterday morning...doc had recommended 10mg 2-3 times daily for my constant anxiety..i took the first one and after about an hour and a half began having really really bad dizziness, muscle tension, headaches, blurry vision and it continued for hours..i immediately went to see my doc who said it was probably just too high a starting dose, especially for someone who's never been medicated before. this morning, i cut the dosage in half and had similar but definitely less severe reaction and im supposed to be taking another one soon...and after a few hours, i DO feel better but in the several hours after taking it, it feel like my anxiety is significantly worse...is this normal for when you first go on it? anyone? and if so, when can i expect these side affects to chill out? thanks.   (Tue Jan 10 16:36 2006)

Buspar by Tiffany
I just started taking it today for panic attacks...hopefully it will help me
advice to DH-  my doc says one the morning and one at night..i am also on 5mg   (Tue Jan 10 20:52 2006)

Paxil by Steve
On the subject of Paxil, it is re-assuring that I'm not the only person having the same kind of issues with it.  I have become completely not myself and very easy to go off the deep end emotionally since I've started taking it.  Even suicidal thoughts at times.  I'm in the process of weaning off it and I believe I'm done with meds.  I can be happy on my own without chemicals changing my personality.  It's just been a horrible experience for me.   (Wed Jan 11 17:56 2006)

buspar by michelle
i just started to take it.i have a fear of being on so many meds that i don't think i'll be able to get pregant again.can someone help me?   (Tue Jan 17 13:14 2006)

I am switching from 15 mg lexapro to 10mg twice a day with buspar.  I cut down the lexapro to 10 mg yesterday, then that same night started the 10 mg buspar.  Today I didn't take any lexapro and took 10 mg buspar plus one xanax (lowest dose).  I feel HORRIBLE!!  I can't stop crying, feeling SO sad and out of control.  I have never felt so bad emotionally.  Please help.   (Thu Jan 19 14:44 2006)

I've suffered from depression and severe social anxiety and panic attacks my whole life.  
I've been on Prozac 40mg for about 3 months now and that has helped my depression - but not my anxiety at all.  I then added 10mg of BuSpar 2Xs a day, 4 weeks ago.  While I've had no horrible side effects (just really weird dreams lately), I haven't had an positive effects.  If anything, my anxiety has gotten worse.  
Anyone know what the next drug I should try should be?  I will continue Prozac for sure but I'm not sure about this BuSpar.  
Thank a lot, this forum is really comforting to read.     (Thu Jan 19 23:15 2006)

I couldnt sleep because of anxiety attacks. I started taking BuSpar and now I am sleeping great! My life has improved 100% because of this medication. From what I read it works for some but not for others. I hope that you can find the same results I did. I am so glad that EVIL PAXIL is out of my life!   (Fri Jan 20 0:31 2006)

getting off meds by Angelheart96969
Someone on this board was talking about chest pains.  I have this condition and is part of the Fibromyalgia I have to live with.  The condition you speak of is called Costochondritis.  Costo for short.  Simply means is an inflammation of the upper chest wall and immitates a HEART attach to the "t".  Sure scared me when I first experienced it, and spoke to my pain doc and my family doc and they both agreed that it was not a heart attack after me going through all of the tests at the hospital for heart attack.  

Always good to check with doc, just to be sure, I am very afraid to chalk everything up to my FM. (Fibromyalgia).  It reallly sucks big time, but was worth learning about this condition, so I could understand it better and know what to do.  

Hope this helps.

Angelheart96969   (Fri Jan 20 11:59 2006)

Im a 45 yr old female. ive had anxiety disorder for years. ive tried lots of meds for it. my last attempt to get help, they misdiagnosed me said i had ADHD and put me on statterra. it made me very tired at first then on the eighth day i became extremely anxious more that i was before. i stopped it when my chest hurt and my heart was racing. im not depressed and antidepressaants make me mean and crazy. mental health physicians scare me, ive had nothing but bad experiences with them. Im not suicidal but i do understand why some people hurt themselves. its because physical pain makes sense. any feedback?   (Sun Jan 22 2:37 2006)

I have been recently diagnosed with anxiety.  It stemed by almost dying from a pulmonary embolism over a year ago.  Does anyone know if Buspar can be taken with anticoagulation meds (Coumadin)?  I have been doing a lot of research and most of the SRIs currently used are not recommended.

Thanks   (Sun Jan 22 17:56 2006)

Im waiting for my Doc to decide if i can get on buspar, in the mean time im taking valium about 5mg a day. i take little chips off of one all day long. i want to take as little as possible. I took buspar a long time ago, and if i am remembering correctly, I think it was very mild. which is a good thing since im scared to death of meds.     (Wed Jan 25 15:07 2006)

Hi!just wanted to say i was on zoloft at age 12 til 15 then switched to paxil from age 16 til now (21)..It was the worst getting off paxil! I had brain shocks (some may know what im talkin about) JUST DONT GET ONPAXIL!! It made me a differnt person. I had weird thoughts all the time! I am now off of it and on zoloft ..i decided to get off of it b/c im pregnant and i heard paxil was not good for the baby..any i was wonderin if anyone knew anything about takin zoloft and zofran ..zofran is for nausea but it says it fights the hormone saratonin (sp) which is what zoloft gives me.?? anyone know anything about this please contact me at Jill_from_sc_2005@yahoo.com thank u sooom uch  Jill -    (Fri Jan 27 21:01 2006)

I have been on Lexapro, Paxil, Celexa, Tegretol, Xanax and now Buspar.  Buspar is assisting me with my anxiety with such a remarkable difference!  I am starting to enjoy taking responsibility for myself, instead of seeking escape with alcohol and drugs.  I am not over sleeping, nor losing my temper with those who mean the most to me such as my husband of 5 years. I am a little skeptical because this seems too good to be true.  One day at a time I suppose --  Any feedback is appreciated!   (Sat Jan 28 6:59 2006)

KAVA by Paul
Kava is safe, when only the root and rhizomes are taken (PharmKava brand is good). Unscrupulus manufacturers have taken advantage of people and put the whole plant into the capsules. This is why a FEW reports of liver toxicity, not failure, have shown up. On top on it, these reporty are sketchy at best.   (Sat Jan 28 7:14 2006)

Good for you, yes take it one day at a time. and if Busparis working for you then stay with it. that sounds like great news to me. Im getting ready to try Buspar. and now , thanks to you, im not afraid. thaank you very much!!! keep in touch.   (Sun Jan 29 2:03 2006)

To sillygal by Penny
Thanks!  I am still on my first week with 1 tablet of Buspar(15mg) halfed for morning and night.  After 1 week I will take 15mg in the morning and 15mg at night.  The first day I experienced a very slight headache, which passed without any aspirin.  This is a very mild medication, also, it is not addictive per Merck Medical Reference.  Good luck to you.     (Sun Jan 29 8:54 2006)

To all by jsnap
I too have suffered anxiety all my life. I had awful nightmares starting at age 5. I was a worry-wart. My mother was possibly bi-polar too, so maybe I inherited it. She was on many different drugs over the years that just now I'm beginning to understand her reactions to. However, now, at 46 I'm learning about all the side effects of those drugs she took and ones being prescribed to me... Klonopin, Lexapro, Wellbutrin to name a few.  I had allergies as a kid and was given anti-histimines for years that also depressed and suppressed me. And, now I think they also dulled my brain so much that learning was difficult for me.  I once told I might be ADHD too. Who knows. I think all these meds over the years have messed up my brain and body.

You all should learned about the many side effects of the drugs being discussed on these pages and stop allowing your doctors to lead you blindly along.  Read the following article:
http://www.breggin.com/minortranqs.html

It discusses the problems associated with all these anti-anxiety meds, except Buspar, which is mentioned but not really discussed. Then stop and consider how your lifestyle (home-life, school or work environments, your diet, exercise patterns, social contacts, talk therapies, and previous meds fed to you) may also be affecting your moods.

Have any of you tried Yoga, meditation, deep breathing to help bring some peace to your mind? I haven't tried Bio-feedback, but I know it works for some people. I also use very relaxing music to go to sleep to. And a nice cup of Yogi brand Bedtime tea with a warm bath before that can often help.

There are so many things to try besides drugs: massages, going for a walk, and maybe just some cuddling with a loved one, a pet maybe?

Best of luck to everyone. I'm going to go ease my brain with music and meditation for 10 minutes now.   (Tue Jan 31 13:25 2006)

To all by Jsnap
The article I mention below is an incomplete version. I have jsut found a more complete one that covers Buspar and some other drugs too. Please read this one instead of the one below:
http://www.sntp.net/drugs/minor_tranquilizers.htm   (Tue Jan 31 13:33 2006)

Everyone should be reading the book that article came from, and others too that discuss the problems with these pyschiatric medications. One leads to another, then to another, and so on. They are all addictive and dangerous and you should know why! Please educate yourselves!   (Tue Jan 31 13:45 2006)

Ya know, yoga and soft music is great and works for anxiety at some level, but not all people can benefit from that alone. Me, for example, Most of the time my anxiety is mild and relaxation techniques work when and if i can find the time. I have tried to stay off meds as much as possible. but lately I seem to be so nervous and anxious even my DO is concerned that it is effecting my health. she says I am at risk for Heart attack aand stroke. sometimes you need to use meds. I just started taking Klonopin .05?mg I think. its the smallest dose. I ask her about buspar she said maybe later. I appreciate your comments and concerns because i too am concerned. but lets relax and not scare a bunch of people unneccesarily, k? thanx again   (Tue Jan 31 14:48 2006)

whats up? please dont stop writing in u have alot to offer. Are u ok? please reply   (Wed Feb 1 17:04 2006)

I had been off Lexapro for about 1 week and I suffered a severe panic attack.  I was unable to think clearly, became lightheaded and very upset.  Now I have resumed Lexapro with a mile dose of Buspar and I am thinking clearly.  I have started walking daily now - definitely a much needed activity.  I realized I should not try to play "doctor" for myself and with the understanding that I go to my physician, who is 'practicing medicine'.  (Not a perfect solution, so I'm going to stop seeking perfect and go with 'ideal', better off, improved health, etc.  Hope all are well.   (Fri Feb 3 8:51 2006)

I have been on Klonopin now for 6 days. I feel completly calm now, no more unreasonable anxiety. I just wish it wasnt addicting. I feel relieved. my shoulders are relaxed, my back isnt tight anymore , my chest doesnt hurt and I am not aware of my heartbeat. My anxiety seems to have gone bye bye. but wouldnt you it, it seems like everything thats good is bad for you. I feel so much better right now that i dont even care. I hope this feeling does not go away because for once i feel "normal" whatever that is.   (Mon Feb 6 13:40 2006)

Relieving anxiety and depression is no easy trick. Understanding these disorders is far beyond the advice of a 1000 lay people or couple physicians combined. 50 years ago the drug of choice was Tobacco, alcohol. And I personally have seen the demise of many lives because of these two substances.
Today I have seen many lives improved because of new medicine. People who've been able to stop smoking and drinking because of modern medications. And begin to live more enjoyable and fulfilling lives. These are great strides.
  Purist will say you are reliant no medication. You need to stop the drugs and face reality. My answer to them is this. " The next time your car needs gas go dig and oil well in your back yard and fill up!"   (Thu Feb 9 7:32 2006)

Gary - Thanks for bringing up tobacco and alcohol. I chose to self medicate with alcohol during my late teen years, then added smoking which led to 'social' cocaine after time.  Mainly the alcohol addiction has caused me great disappointment, set up for failures, and times of great physical and mental challenge.  Today it is a wonder to be sober and able to work 40 hours per week. (No more excuses to my employer and short checks) I remember to take it one day at a time and count my many blessings.  sillygal, I am happy to hear your latest progress.  Enjoy your day!   (Fri Feb 10 6:21 2006)

I believe our lives can be like unguided ships in the night. But I still ask what is guided. And what is the purpose of our lives. Well for now I believe by posting a few notes here and there we have intuitively been guided to show some purpose.
Regarding the uses of prescription medicines to help us through tough time there is no shame. Just as a diabetic injects insulin on a dialy basis, the rest of the normals all have there day waiting for them. Remember there is no perfect life. But having a good life and a happy life is our right. So allow ourselves to achieve it.
   (Sat Feb 11 6:57 2006)

I believe our lives can be like unguided ships in the night. But I still ask what is guided. And what is the purpose of our lives. Well for now I believe by posting a few notes here and there we have intuitively been guided to show some purpose.
Regarding the uses of prescription medicines to help us through tough time there is no shame. Just as a diabetic injects insulin on a dialy basis, the rest of the normals all have there day waiting for them. Remember there is no perfect life. But having a good life and a happy life is our right. So allow ourselves to achieve it.
   (Sat Feb 11 7:16 2006)

buspar/SA by nervousandscared
Hello,
I have SA and are very nervous at work and when speaking with others.  I am constantly having neg self talk with myself and are nervous of what others think of me.  My doctor prescribed xanax as needed - which i have taken before- and Buspar 15 mg a day.  I have never taken any meds for anxiety and i am giving myself more anxiety and so nervous to take it and be worse off than i am now.  Keep thinking i should be able to handle this - feel like a loser having to take medicine and afraid of what is going to happen to me and how i will get to the doctor asap if something really bad happens.  I am afraid in yrs they will find out something horrible about buspar and i should never have taken it and dealt with what i am feeling would have been better for my health.  I am afraid what i will be like on buspar - i have liked the xanax relaxing feeling and my face not turning red when talking to others and having more confidence.  I wish my life was like that all the time - i think i would do more and worry less.  I have a fight with myself everyday how much xanax to take or not to take.  The doctor prescribed .5 mg 3x a day but i split pills and sometimes just take 1.5 mg a day or try to skip days.  I am terrified of medicine and this has created a new neg self talk within me.  Is anyone else as afraid as this? and thinks taking it could be worse than what they have as symptoms without it?  Has anyone taken buspar?  I am terrified of gaining any weight too but have heard this drug is not known for that.  i wish i could find a chat room to talk also since i have so many questions.  I am also seeing a therapist and she recommended i see my doctor to see if any meds would help and she knew i had gotten some results from xanax when scared at work about talking with others.  Any information at all is appreciated so much.   (Sun Feb 12 11:20 2006)

Hey, your are at the place to start dialogue. Also its so important to have trust in a therpist.
  Remember we are here cause we are not perfect. So post your thoughts. Its ok to be not perfect.
   Much of what I read today is that many people of SA. Whatever it causes we should all realize we do suffer from  serotonergic  disorder. Basically we probably don't have enough serotonin available.
    Advice for now is to take the meds. Why? Because I was in the same place you are in some time back. Once the Buspar starts to work thing will start to make a lot more sense. Afterward, if you decide to get off the meds, then you should do so by making some lifestyle changes. Which includes thing like better eating, less cafiene, or maybe a new job or leaving an unhealthy relationship. But for now follow doctors orders. Cheers   (Sun Feb 12 12:28 2006)

thanks for being so honest. i too suffer from exactly the same symptoms. ive been on klonopin .5mg for 11 days now. and omg its like all worries and anxiety have completely gone. i think im hooked. it is an addicting med. but monday i have to see my physic. and im afraid she is going to take this away from me. i dont want to go on antidepressents, i dont have the two weeks they say it takes to get use to them. im very worried about this. seems like me and you are alot alike. hope well goes with you. keep me informed okay?   (Sun Feb 12 16:21 2006)

MS/anxiety by Shelly
I have insomnia nad I'm nervous all day long home alone. I have MS, husband works, 2 kids 18(difficult) and 14(an angel - really)I don't work because of fear, not disabled by MS just emotionally. What can I take? I'm npt any any meds.   (Mon Feb 13 17:18 2006)

Hi! Talk to your Doctor about taking Buspar or something else that doesnt interfere with your meds or your M.S. I know what Multiple Sclerosis is and I know what it can do to you. I use to take care of a dear friend who has it. Her type is progressive. Her Doctor would prescribe Kava Kava, and something else that i cannot remember at the moment. ask your Doc. antidepressents also are helpful but ask your doc to be safe okay? hope you have a happy valentines day, and be good to yourself. ms can also cause fatigue , that alone can be miserable. good luck to you. keep in touch

   (Mon Feb 13 23:14 2006)

Went to the Physc doctor today, she gave me enough klonopin to take for a month or so, i can take it once or twice a day. but she said on the 13th of next month she wants me to take Ziprexa. she said i could still take the klonopin for a short time only if Ziprexa gives me the shakes or i have uneasy side effects in the beginning. Now isnt that incouraging. I didnt have any anxiety today until after i saw her!What the heck is Ziprexa? I think thats what she said. Do they think im too "sick" for just Buspar? help, i feel like im slipping.   (Mon Feb 13 23:34 2006)

Anxiety by Lorraine
I have had panic attacks for three years and started taking benzo's to manage . . .I became psychologically addicted. Thinking I can't public speak without it. My world became progressively smaller and I thought I "needed" it for more and more things that caused me to be nervous. First public speaking, then job interviews...on and on. Now I have Generalized Anxiety and am not on any meds. I am taking melatonion strips to sleep (herbal) and totally work. I am trying to manage my daily anxiety with counselling focusing on trusting my body to manage nervous symtpoms. My gude is a book called "hope and help for your nerves." My doc is recommending an anti-depressent but I am not sure  . .. I kiinda feel like I am in this position because of benzo's and their result of a slow learning to not trust and finally fear nervous symptoms. The fear of fear. Any recommendations, I still take some benzos on bad days . . .maybe once a week (.5 ativan)   (Tue Feb 14 9:52 2006)

Wow Lorraine I feel like i know you. try talking to your doc about doing the same thing shes gonna do for me, that is start you on antidepressent with a benzo back up in case of breakthru or side effects. eventually you will need less and less benzos. that is what my doc told me.    (Tue Feb 14 14:13 2006)

How we may react as a final outcome of our anxiety and fears will differ tremendously among individuals. I've seen and know people go into a full clinical depression while others seem to dangle between sadness and Euphoria. Due to so many social stigma's, people often characterize the use of meds as being outside the norm of human behaviour. In fact what I discovered is the norm for people to chemically change their behaviour. I.E. (Tobacco and alcohol). Let me put it this way.  My doctor told me that it it is likely that his patients that don't smoke and drink, that also take an antidepressant, eat decent food and get some kind of regular exercise will out live his smoking and drinking patients.
Clearly there are many alternative ways to deal with these issus. Or as an adjuct to our meds. I use meletonin at night. But also calcium/magnesium caplets. There is the amino acid called L-Theanine. And several other that have worked for me. Exercise is important. Yoga adds great value. And just meditation is something we should all learn to relax. Sometimes however the hard medicines are just what is required. If it gets us through now, then we can look foward to a better tomorrow.   (Tue Feb 14 16:00 2006)

Zyprexa by Penny
I took Zyprexa for several months and experienced rapid weight gain!  There are other meds available without this severe side effect.  Anxious patients do not need the additional stress of added weight.  I am going to another Psychiatrist next month for a second opinion on my prescribed medications.  Currently, Lexapro and Buspar and working wonders for me! sillygal, I have an 'extreme' diagnosis with my Bipolar and Alcoholism - impulsive/compulsive personality!  Why the doctor (Psychiatrist) let me have a copy of my medical file?!  I need and want to become more serious with my exercise and relaxation --- trying to start walking daily.  Thanks Gary.   (Wed Feb 15 7:32 2006)

Just found this website... I've looked through a few of the postings but thought it easier to just send one of my own and ask a couple questions.  First, I've been on Lexapro for just over a year now ... I've gained 50+ lbs! Its AWFUL and obviously leads to more anxiety and disappointment in myself!  Has anyone else experienced this?  My doctor won't listen to me and has tried to tell me that Lexapro doesn't cause weight gain.  However, nothing else in my life has changed and so it has to be that.  For years, I have always been able to do Atkins diet and lose 15 lbs in the first month.  I tried last October...being VERY strict about the carbs and Atkins and after an entire month I didn't lose a single pound!  That has to be from the Lexapro!
So, she tells me now that she'll switch me to Buspar...  However I have to take 1-2 weeks to wean myself off the Lexapro first.  Has anyone else gone through this?  Any problems?
I know that I need to begin exercising more also.  Unfortunately I'm in Minnesota so walking outside is not an option right now ... planning on using a treadmill.  However, my problem is that I have so many "responsibilities" that need my attention (thus my anxiety of nothing being done and not to perfection like I need) that I tend to make excuses to not exercise and not to care for myself.  How do you get beyond this?  How do you tell your family, friends, co-workers and everyone "NO" so that you can concentrate on yourself???!!!

Looking for some help ...  Kirsten.   (Wed Feb 15 10:34 2006)

There are couple of issues that I think should be brought up regarding the biology of the problems we deal with. First weight gain is not uncommon with many of these medications. But can't be specific since I don't know the particular details of specific drugs. The other issue is our biology and how fat metabolism is possibly a part of depression.  It is becoming more known that people with low cholesterol have higher rates of depression. And a culture that is obcessed with weight may be giving the wrong advice to those whom are suseptable to depression. That is a diet designed to lose weight may have other consequences.
Personally I think if weight is an issue the Atkins diet is clearly one of the best choices. In fact I think that maintaining a reasonable body weight is best when protiens and fats are combined  nutrionally to not exceed our recomended caloric intake.
   I think this is a really important subject since I have seen first hand people subject their bodies(and minds)to dis-nutrition all for some other cause. Abusing our bodies to cope for another need or desire is just bad advice.
There is much to write I think I need my own web page. Another subject for another day.   (Wed Feb 15 17:15 2006)

My Doc wants to put me on zyprexa, i dont know why she is doing this, i did some research and zyprexa is used for scizophrenic, acute mania, and bi polar. what the heck? I have simple but not easy "anxiety disorder" I know this and was diagnosed along time ago by another doctor. Im still taking klonopin .5 mg every morn. she said i can take two if i need it, but i dont really need. I was given this drug by my primary phys. I found that it works . i finally found something that accually works, I know it can be addicting, but i dont see why i cant continue to take it as long as i do not go over the prescribed amount. I also found out that this zyprexa can make me gain weight . alot of weight. Ive spent the last year struggling to loose weight. ive lost about 25 lbs. Im finally back into the dating scene. i feel good about my self. I am not depressed but if i got real fat , i just dont know what i would do. it would devistate me. my life seems to be falling right in right direction for me and she wants to play the pill pop game it seems. Im gonna ask her if she can prescribe me Buspar. as much as she likes with a klonopin backup if i need it. Im scared and i dont know what to do. my appointment is march 13th . does anyone have any advice. I dont want to change my personality I just want to calm down inside a little. help?   (Thu Feb 16 15:58 2006)

web site by Gary
Hi,
   DOn't be scarred. Just be informed.
http://www.mentalhealth.com/

  This is a pretty good site for info. I'll get back her tomorrow   (Thu Feb 16 20:06 2006)

I looked at the web site, i have no money to join that. I think im just gonna take it easy. trying not to think about hurting myself. no, dont get me wrong im not suicidal, just sick and tired of being sick and tired. bye for now   (Fri Feb 17 15:21 2006)

join? by Gary
Join?  Somehow that use to be a free site. I'm not a member. I just went to the URL and  began searching.
   Somehow I got into the website with out a member log in. Well I don't pay either for stuff that I can get for free. And it should be as free as the public library
  You're ok. And relax. Take a long walk if its not cold where you live. Have a good weekend.   (Sat Feb 18 13:07 2006)

Tired by B
Does Buspirone make anyone else very tired? Even in low doses, I get drowsy and fall asleep. I didn't have this problem with Benzos.   (Mon Feb 20 17:02 2006)

Im relaxing and still ok, Life is accually great for me right now. money is good, im dating, my health is good, my grandbabies are great. I have nothing to be depressed about, so why am I? I wish i knew what happen to jsnap. if your out there, drop a line. oh yea by the way, i found some Buspar in my drawer that i had a while back, im thinking about taking them without my docs consent. i know they work. so i figure , whats the harm. these benzos are like making me feel real sad sometimes without any reason behind it. enough. bye for now,
                   (Mon Feb 20 18:23 2006)

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I saw my therepist. she said my doc who wanted to put me onziprexa was not even a pshyciatist . she reasured me that all i have going on is GAD generalized anxiety disorder. she said that ziprexa was an antiphsycotic. and she has no business putting me on it. i now have a new "Phsyciatrist" thank the good lord, im not crazy, just a little tense. and no wonder. I think i can finally get buspar if i want it. im so happy and much more relaxed. thats real scary to find out that the doc your seeing isnt even a specialist in this field. be careful out there. ask questions. and you dont have to take anything you are uncomfortable with. wher are you jsnap?    (Thu Feb 23 12:32 2006)

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wierd reaction by juicebox
i took my first does of bursbar today and i exploded.  I felt
high. I went wild running down the halls.  Im soooo
confused.  is this normal?   (Tue Feb 28 0:54 2006)

No   (Tue Feb 28 17:19 2006)

How long does Buspar normally take to work?   (Wed Mar 1 16:36 2006)

Too many meds by Anastasia_aj
My dosages are ridiculous.  Here's what I take daily:
Zoloft 300 mgs
Trazadone 50 mgs
Xanax 4 MGS A DAY
Klonipin 5mg as needed
Now adding Buspar (don't know dosage yet)
Ambien CR 12.5 mg 1/day
I still have the shakes so bad I can't type in the mornings (which is detrimental to my job).  Also, the Ambien makes me groggy (not to mention all that Xanax!)...
Now I'm having headaches and more panic attacks.  What should I do??  I've been taking different meds for 5 years now, and have been on this schedule for about a year.  Now crying spells are increasing, anger, irratibility, anti-social behavior, etc.
Any help would be appreciated.

PS--I'm in TOTAL agreement that Paxil is evil--I tried to commit suicide twice on it...   (Fri Mar 3 15:09 2006)

busbar by juicebox
Busbar takes a while to work because you start at low doses.  
be careful because apparently it can sometimes cause
manic-like episodes, which is what happened to me the
other night.   (Sat Mar 4 15:48 2006)

Buspar by Joe
Thanks for the response. What exactly is a manic like episode? How is it working for you now.  I'm currently on 15 mgs a day, but moving to 30 in a few days.  I already feel some benefit, hopefully it's not a pacebo effect.   (Sun Mar 5 20:38 2006)

to Joe by juicebox
the manic-like episode that i got was just that I got very
impulsive and hyper and having racing thoughts.  I was
running around the dorms of my hall spontaneously.  It only
lasted for a couple of hours though.   (Sun Mar 5 23:24 2006)

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Well I finally got a Doctor to prescribe me Buspar. I'm still on klonipin now and then only if i think i need it. i just took my first dose of 15mg tonight. im gonna start on 15mg in the morn and 15mg at night then go to 15mg in morn and 30mg at night.after one week. im hoping this works for me. so far i feel nothing, just a little tired. Ive been real sick lately. i'm fighting M.R.S.A. its getting me down physically and emotionally. once again i had to got to urgent care because i was completely exhausted and overwhelmed. I had to be rehydrated . I think alot of my problem is is emotional . Ive been getting very depressed and overly sensitive lately. ok thats enough about me, where are you jsnap?   (Sat Mar 11 0:50 2006)

Has anyone else experienced a headache after taking buspar? just was wondering if it is the buspar or something else.    (Sun Mar 12 0:35 2006)

I've been on buspar for 2 weeks, and have gotten some headaches.  The main side effect I have seen is being dizzy every once in a while.   (Sun Mar 12 19:18 2006)

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My head still hurts and i cannot sleep. and around 3 or 4 pm every day, i get real moody.    (Tue Mar 14 13:36 2006)

I'm taking 30 mgs but don't really feel any of these symptoms. has it helped with your anxiety?   (Wed Mar 15 21:59 2006)

i dont know if you were talking to me or not, but i'm taking 15 in the AM and 15 at PM. but on friday i'm suppose to go up to 30 at night and still 15 in the AM. so that will be 40. i dont think my headaches are as bad today, but i have lung problems and i also have to take alot of meds for that, and those meds alone causes me anxiety. like albuterol, qvar, serevent and also albuterol sulfate for the nebulizer. then to top it all off, i need to take Hycodan, which is a liquid vicodin , it stops the chronic couging. i'm trying to wean myself off of the klonopin a little, but every time i have to take hycodan, i get an anxiety attack so i take my klonopin. For some weird reason, hycodan and vicodin make me wired. i'm a mess. yes i'm still having alot of anxiety, not sure if its because of my other meds tho. hope that answers ur question.    (Thu Mar 16 1:59 2006)

1 have suffered from gad for about 15 years.
it often causes me to get depressed due to the chest prssure & extreme thoughts. about
5 years ago my doc put me on celexa w/1 1/2 mg lorazepam prn. the first 3 weeks were extreme hell,the anxiety was the worst its ever been. but then just like majic it went
away.i went off the lorazepam after about a year. my life really was changed untill october 2005,the medicine just stopped working!!!! iweaned off celexa in about 1 month & have been miserable ever since. i wanted to be brave & just deal with it,but the anxiety got real bad & those obssesive thoughts are killers & as you guessed it the depression came back. its now tuesday march 13,2006 & my doctor put me on lexapro
with lorazepam . it has been 3 days on leaxapro & lorazepam,pretty bad side effects
so far but the one thats getting to me the most is extreme increased anxiety.the doctor says lorazepam should be helping!B.S.! does any one have any experience on when this will go away or what other benzo would help more? dont know if i can deal with this for 3 weeks!!!!   (Thu Mar 16 19:04 2006)

ive been thru similar situations and when my doc put me klonipin i thought i was in heaven it works it really does, but of course now they dont want me to take it very often because it is addicting and its side effects are in the long run, like memory loss , and others that wont happen right away. be carefull. i can not take ativan , it makes me feel like sh'' . klonipin and valium have worked for me.   (Fri Mar 17 2:06 2006)

benzodiazapines by glideman
thanks silly-girl for your advise.is the klonipin ok to take short term,say a month or two? does anyone else have insight into
dealing with the anxiety caused during initial onset with lexapro? thanks preimtively for you advise.    (Sat Mar 18 0:19 2006)

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to sillygirl by Gary
      A few weeks back you mentioned that a doctor prescribed  Zyprexa. At the time you expressed some dissatisfaction about this prescription. And your fear was that you were being given an anti psychotic.
   I’m stepping in to clear the air a little on Zyprexa.  First you are technically correct. The  FDA approval for Zyprexa was for an antipsychotic. However the manufacturer obtain additional approval to use this medication as a mood stabilizer.
    In a nutshell, when a patient  enters a physicians office, the doctor may choose this medicine as opposed to things like xanax because it has a brood spectrum effect on anxiety.  And if the patient is in the process of developing bi-polar, this drug can provide benefit for them and also to non bipolar patients. It will buy time for the bi-polar patient until further diagnosis.
   As for those with GAD, on going intervention with their doctor or psychiatrist should change the medicinal therapy to the appropriate drug for their disorder.  
   Generally the problem with treatments for any disorder is that patients either can’t afford to continually see their doctor or they choose to stop going.  Which in turn leaves them never getting long term effective help. And that is where I believe that drugs like Zyprexa are initially used because they are capable of suppressing different kinds of mood issues. And if might just be the better choice in an emergency.   (Sat Mar 18 9:39 2006)

Thanks for the feedback. My main problem with taking any ssri or antipsychotic is the side effects, I am extremely sensitive to just about anything. At my job, I am responsible for 6 developmentally disabled adults. I also pass meds to them. I cannot nor can they afford for me to make a  mistake. Right now I feel I am stabalized, except for a few obsessive thoughts of hurting myself, which I am a very strong woman emotionally most of the time. I am able to hold myself together. I dont have a choice . Too many people depend on me. And I refuse to take any drug that has the probability of making me gain weight, That would just be one more thing to hate myself for. Once again, thanks for your feedback, it really helps to have someone directly talk to me about this.     (Sat Mar 18 14:12 2006)

C.O.P.D. is chronic obstrutive pulmonary desease/ asthma. Mine is probably due to past smoking and smoking speed in the past. a long long time ago, when i thought i was invinsable. How do I give you my email address without giving it to every eye looking here? I'm a little puter illiterate and I'm not sure how I even got here. but now I have a direct link. so whats your email address? Finally , just maybe someone gets me. u think?    (Sun Mar 26 2:40 2006)

sillygirl by glideman
whats c.o.p.d.? i would be more than happy to be your friend through this with you.i have ahsma & anxiety & trust me i know what
your talking about.the inhalers help you breathe but make your anxiety ten times worse,but if you dont use them,you cant breathe & that makes the anxiety worse,youll swear your dying.so no matter what you do you feel worse.& then on top of that if you suffer from g.a.d. you always feel something is wrong with you anyway due to the abnormal thought process.write back if you want to & give me your e-mail adress.    (Sat Mar 25 23:21 2006)

to sillygirl by glideman
thanks for the advise,the clonazepam seem to do the trick.also my doctor dropped the dose of lexapro to help eliviate the bad side effects.by the way has anyone ever heard of lexapro working on avery low dose?
my pscy says i am the most sensitive person to meds he has ever seen & that he has patients that are also sensitive that do well on 2.5mg of lexapro.is this unheard of or what? please advise!! maybe with a testimonial.   (Sun Mar 19 14:08 2006)

Cool, glad to help, just be carefull. and i can say I am extremely sensitive to meds too. when I was on valium 5mg PRN, I had to cut it into 4th's . right now im doing great on 1/2 of a .05mg of klonopin. I tried to not take it yesterday like my doc suggested, and oh my god, I was so nervous and utterly felt brain dead. I was standing in subway sandwhich place, and all of a sudden I just felt so uncomfortable in my own skin. I was so afraid someone was gonna say hello to me or something. so I left rather quickly and then went back later when i calmed down. I dont know what im gonna do if the doc takes this away from me. this morning i had to take 1/2 pill. Im also on 45 mg buspar too every day. its only been 9 days tho since i started it. Does anyone know how long its suppose to take before i will see benifits? I think i'm hooked on klonopin, just by the way i reacted to not taking it for one day. ok i think i'm rambling now, I sometimes do that. I feel soooo HYPER inside. It might be nice if I could keep up with my mind, I feel like i need to teather myself down to something so i dont fly away. HELP!!    (Sun Mar 19 16:05 2006)

Buspar by Kayo33
Ok...I have been on every depression med in the past 2 years and now my doc switched me to Buspar b/c I quit taking Cymbalta. I told him that I'd rather be crazy than fat...anyway...can anyone tell me when the sobbing, meltdowns and suicidal feelings will go away?? The dizziness and "brain lightning" also suck. I'm not calling my psych b/c I already did and pretty much cussed him out and I think he is now afraid of me. I feel like Buspar is my last chance at life b/c doc wont give me benzos b/c of prior drug abuse. gee...what was i thinking?!    (Tue Mar 21 14:12 2006)

I'm on 30 mgs a day and don't really feel anything. Also, how long have you been taking it?   (Tue Mar 21 19:52 2006)

Off Cymbalta by John
After 10 years on antidepressants I have decided to stop taking the fuckers all together. I think they are all bad news. Almost two weeks now since the cymbalta withdrawal came on full force. I was weaning down from 60mg, but the slow weaning still doesn't work well. Had all the symptoms (zaps, nausea, insomnia, restless leg, etc.). Finally had to break down and get my doctor (fuck the psychiatrists) to give me a benzo to take the edge off the withdrawal. Gave me only a ten day supply of Klonopin. It has helped alot, but still am having some withdrawal symptoms. Here's my question finally, the only thing I think the antidepressants did for me at times was control my anxiety. I have noticed my anxiety back after stopping the Cymbalta, and the Klonopin helps, but I don't want to be on an addictive benzo like Klonopin, which has its own withdrawal nightmare I have heard. What do you guys think, would a low dose BuSpar be good for me or not, since it is less addictive? Or should I try to deal with anxiety and other psychiatric issues without meds. I am going to scream!   (Wed Mar 22 11:14 2006)

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About a year ago I was diagnosed with c.o.p.d. the past few months I have been getting worse. It's making my anxiety worse. I'm scared to death of dying. Whenever I have a hard time breathing, my anxiety kicks in overtime. Then I honestly believe i'm going to die right then. I have rushed to hosp. in resperatory distress, and knowing in the back of my mind that most of it is just ANXIETY. But it's very frightning. I have not taken any klonopin in 2 days. I'm still taking Buspar aprox.35 mg a day. Hey maybe it's starting to work. I don't feel overly anxious today. but I am feeling like maybe this c.o.p.d. is causing me some depression. I'm lonely. Every time I meet a man, and lately it's been on line, Just as soon as they find out I have lung problems they're gone. I don't blame them cause who wants to be around someone thats sick most of the time. well anyways, this is whats getting me down mostly. This, work, and www.tagworld.com/carolyn45 is basically my social life. go check out my page. but be nice.    (Sat Mar 25 14:12 2006)

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Ok, here's my thoughts. 1. you have a very foul mouth. ok thats off my chest. now, 2. Maybe you should do what your doc advises you to do. If you don't like your doc, you have the right to ask for another one. I feel the same way about some psychiatrist. I have been taking an extremely low dose of benzos for over a year now, but i try not to take them every day, and if i think i absolutely have to, i only take a 1/2 of one. I only had one episode of what i thought was a withdrawl. and since then im fine. today i havent taken any benzos so far but its still early. i also take aprox 30 mg buspar every day but broken into a.m. and p.m. i take the most of it at night just before i go to bed because it makes me dizzy and my head hurt sometimes. You sound angry. I understand angry. I get angry just because i have this stupid anxiety problem. Sometimes i just dont understand why i cannot handle anxiety like "normal" people. Sometimes i feel like a freak. but I found out that more people have this problem than you would think. Professionals, Doctors, Lawyers, etc... Some of my co-workers also have it. when they told me, it made me feel more comfortable. Everyone is an individual with their own treatments that works best for them. Good Luck to you John. I hope this helps.    (Fri Mar 24 12:54 2006)

sillygirl by glideman
i think you have a pretty good outlook,considering!i have had extreme anxiety for about 18 years now coupled with depression due to not getting the anxiety under controll.let me assure everyone reading this that there is hope.you just have to be willing to keep searching for a good psychiatrist that wont give up untill your feeling better.my doctor has been through everything with me.just stay with the anti-d meds no matter how bad the side effects are,because they will go away after
a couple of weeks i promise.i am very sensitive to meds,alot more than most.my psyc says im in the 1 to 5 percent when it comes to side effects.but once the nightmarish side effects go away,iusually do find relief  for 3 to five years at a time.this to me becomes a favorable tradeoff
to 2-4 weeks of hell.i currently am on 5mg of lexapro & 1/2mg daily klonipin.the anxiety created by the lexapro was absolutely un bearable,the lethargy,the terrible insomnia,dry mouth,the teeth clenching,sore muscles,the agitation,all seems to have been for a good cause now after 2 weeks.i hope this has been an encouragemnt to someone out there to stick with it & pray alot.docs dont have the answers all the time but things always have a way of working out in the end. just remember GOD will not put anything in our lives he doesnt feel we can handle!!!!!!!     (Fri Mar 24 15:46 2006)

Buspar by Renee
I have been taking 15mg of Buspar for about a month and a half now for my anxiety that was so bad that I was clenching my muscles so tight that I always felt like I was going to lose control over my bladder at any time. Of course this feeling only added to my anxiety, and I am also pretty shy so that has an anxiety all of its own. I felt unable to function because of all the anxious thoughts and feelings that I had, but through this past week, I've lost that clenching feeling and I feel so much more relaxed. I find that I don't have the same overwhelmingly anxious thoughts. Now it feels like I can learn more about the nonanxious Renee. It has actually felt like a spiritual experience. Buspar has just helped take the edge off a little bit so that I can work on my attitude and just be able to enjoy not being so anxious. I take a half a pill twice a day at breakfast and lunch. I need it most at work. I feel kinda tingly in my tounge and limbs and head right after I take it but it goes away in about 10-15 minutes. I also get little headaches by the end of the day, but I consider these things to be very minor when you consider what it has done for me in the bigger picture. I am very happy that I decided to take this drug. I tried to help myself without drugs, but I just couldn't get over that obstacle of generalized anxiety. Alot of times I would have a panic attack for no reason. I felt so helpless to myself, like I had no control. I really encourage people like me to try Buspar. It doesn't make you feel like a different person, it makes you feel more like your nonanxious self. It is a very wonderful thing.   (Sat Mar 25 8:48 2006)

sillygirl by glideman
i sent you an email to wait i think is your e-mail address.i hope you get it so we can
communicate on aregular basis.i hope i find you well.i am still wainting for this lexapro to do something afetr 2 weeks as my depression isnt lifting at all!!!!!!!!!   (Sun Mar 26 13:15 2006)

sillygirl by glideman
well i guess i didnt have your e-mail adress
correct i got my message back. so i created an e-mail account just for you to contact me. its harleystud05@msn.com once you e-mail me once i will give you my correct one & i will cancel this one.so every one else out there this will only be a valid e-mail
adress for a short time.so please no-one else besides sillygirl e-mail me.as i will not answer back.    (Sun Mar 26 13:55 2006)

F.Y.I. My name is Carolyn. and any one can pretend to be me. but I have already sent you a note. did you go to my page on tagworld?   (Sun Mar 26 14:19 2006)

i take 40 mg of busbar a day (20 in the morning, 20 at night)
and i don't feel like its helped at all.  in fact, i feel like it is
worse.  I don't understand medicine and how it works great
for some and not at all for others. It's so frustrating.  My
doctor won't let me go on any benzos either.   (Sun Mar 26 16:50 2006)

juicebox by glideman
how long have you been on buspar?what is your symtoms you are taking buspar for?buspar can take up to a couple of weeks for full benefits. if after a month you are getting no response then it is possible that
med is not for you.if you are taking it for gad,which i have,you may respond well to an
ssri like celexa or lexapro,which tend to work relatively quickly,usually within a month.my advise (its only advise)is to start
out on a low dose (about 5mg) of lexapro or
celexa for the first week or two,as it ussually causes an increase in anxiety during initial onset of the med.then move up
to10mg then for the remaining.to help combat
the added anxiety,ask your psyc for lorazepam or clinazepam,which really helps.
i hope i have been helpfull......   (Sun Mar 26 18:34 2006)

Am I ever going to get well? Physically or mentally? I want to live life as if it were my last day every day but being physically sick is preventing me from doing that. and when I am well physically then i'm tore up mentally. I was sitting in front of a train track today and the lights and bells went off. The train was coming and for about 10 seconds I felt like driving my car onto the tracks. I even gunned the engine. my foot was still on the break. all i had to do was release my brake. Then the arm came down. after the train past, so did that thought. That was the first time I really felt that way. It made me mad. No i'm not suicidal! I believe if you kill yourself, you will go to hell. Im glad its over and i hope it never happens to me again. just thought id share tonight.   (Mon Mar 27 1:59 2006)

glideman by juicebox
thanks for the tips.  I've been on busbar for 3 weeks. I'm
gonna talk to my doctor about celexa and lexapro.   (Mon Mar 27 8:58 2006)

juicebox by glideman
glad i could help.celexa realy changed my life for the good.i suffer from GAD & depression.i was on celexa for 5 years & it
realy made a big difference in my attitude,no anxiety (except during first 2 weeks),my sleep was good,i only gained 30 lbs in 5 years. all side effects went away
within first month.lexapro & celexa are indentical chemically,except celexa has both
left & rifgt isomer,whereas lexapro has only
the left side isomer.   (Tue Mar 28 13:02 2006)

Sillygal by buddyjoe
if your having problems, I think you need something stronger than buspar.  Buspar by itself seems relatively weak, but I am a newbie to meds.   (Tue Mar 28 23:42 2006)

Accually I think i'm doing very well. I was told that it is normal to think about hurting oneself now and then its what we do with those thoughts that matter. I believe this person. I am also taking klonopin when I need it. I have not had to take any klonopin in 2 days so far. Having a strong support system also helps. This is part of mine. Sometimes I just get on here and type whatever is on my mind, and it helps, not only do i get all the crap off my chest, i get feedback too. way cool, huh? cheaper than therapy. Oh yea i also do that too. but only about every other month unless my therapist thinks i'm nutting up. Hey thanks for the feedback. lets talk.    (Tue Mar 28 23:54 2006)

my surgery by Rosie
I actually did a lot of research before deciding on a doctor.  The doctor I chose has a wonderful reputation and a website where you chat with current and past patients.  He was wonderful, it seems when you have laproscopic surgery, the gases used can pinch a nerve that goes right to your shoulder.  For the first time, I was pain free yesterday and so far today, so I guess its going away.  I don't have a local doctor yet, but will soon as I am looking for someone local to get my fills done, however, I have been in constant contact with my dr in Mexico by phone and email.  Now that I'm feeling better, I'm also feeling better about the surgery, being in pain just totally sucked!  Im on a liquid diet still, so that's no fun but I have lost about 10 lbs which is great...Its funny you say I'm brave, a lot of people have told me that, I am brave for things like that but a total chicken when it comes to stupid little things, for example, my biggest fear about the surgery, was the plane ride and the fact that I thought they were going to find I had lung cancer when they did the chest X- ray (of course, it came out fine), I never really thought about what life would be after this surgery or how I would feel post op!  But that's my neurotic mind at work, what can I say, at least you guys can relate, right?   (Wed May 24 10:05 2006)

To rosie and all by Jennifer
Rosie, so glad you are feeling better, i had laproscopic surgery several years ago for endometriosis and I do know what you are talking about with the shoulder pain and it was all from gas, but it was HORRIBLE!!! So I am confident it will go completely away for you. And I pray that the surgery does good for you now.
What I have been reading a lot about lately here on the board is that there are actually things that trigger ya'lls anxiety or things that you all are anxious about. Now I am like that a little for example this all started with planes- I can't do planes(but my first daughter was born on 9-11-01)but a few months ago i started having panic attacks while driving over bridges or overpasses, so i get real anxious before i even get to the bridges now and now am not even driving over the tall ones myself- I can only be a passenger. But other than that there is not something that causes my anxiety or I am not worried about something(like having a sickness) that makes me anxious all day. My anxiety and my attacks come out of the blue and when I have them I just feel scared to death but could not tell you of what or why. WHich to me makes it feel worse because I mean I am seriously scared to death, but can't give a reason or can't explain to anyone what I am scared about. Which makes it hard for them to understand. But from what I have read I guess my body is just stuck in a bad cycle of fear-adrenaline-fear. Where whatever caused my attacks to begin with doesn't even matter anymore, it is the fear of the attacks that makes my body release more adrenaline which causes more fear, etc. etc. My nerves are just at a very hightened state. It just sucks not to be anxious about possibly having cancer, or this or that, but just being scared to death for no reason.
Does anyone else feel the same way or are you always anxious about something specific?
LOL
Jennifer   (Wed May 24 11:45 2006)

sillygorl by glideman
im glad to hear you have a good support system.that is very important,to be able to vent & have someone that truly cares.what you say is true.whatever you suffer from whether it be depression,anxiety,or any physical illness,we all have thoughts of hurting ourselves,this is a normal reaction to severe stress,anxiety,depression.but the we need to understand ,this doesnt make us crazy,its how we react to these thoughts that define whether or not we are crazy.thoughts dont make up who we are,acts do.hope this helps.     (Wed Mar 29 10:46 2006)

I'm so tired of being sick. My lungs hurt and they are tired. It takes every bit of energy i have just to go to work. I'm not having trouble breathing, my lungs just hurt. I'm beginning to get very scared. I had to take klonopin today. Everything i want in life is out of my reach. I'm so tired of being here . i'm so tired of being me.    (Thu Mar 30 2:11 2006)

Hey Sillygirl,
   We all care on this forum. Please listen and hold out.
   Step one is to start making changes using baby steps. There are no giant leaps but slow progressive movements forward.
  STep one is get a journal. Begin to log each day with feeling. Maybe use a number system of 1 thru 10. 10 being best and 1 being worst.  Then write down everything that goes into your body. Food,caffiene,cigarettes, alcohol, drugs.  Everything. Be specific with food. For example write down lead ground meat or white bread.
   Also you need to keep track of your pace. Fast pace, stressful pace, family obligation, etc...
   Here is my point. Life is a balance. Overdue one thing and everything else goes to heck. I'm also interested in the possibility of food alergies.
  But you have to take charge. And taking charge means baby steps. No big changes.
  
   Check out this web site: http://drkaslow.com/home.html
  
   This site has very thorough. So don't let it overwhelm you. Read the home page.

In the meantime keep your chin high.   (Thu Mar 30 7:20 2006)

Thanks for the insight. I took a look and yes it is a bit overwhelming. but the fact is He makes alot of sence. I use to log every day. I dont know what happened i just quit. It really didnt help me much. and all my secrets were on paper and now i dont know where that paper is. So now i'm just an open book. I log here. not every day because i dont have time. I am going to use your suggestion on writing everything down that i eat.    (Thu Mar 30 13:42 2006)

Where u at? are u ok? please email me. I'm worried about u.    (Thu Mar 30 13:44 2006)

sillygirl by glideman
im ok just having a bad day,still waiting for thisf**king medicine to work.no energy,hurt all over,no end in sight.i will e-mail you later,or im you later.are you ok?
   (Thu Mar 30 18:35 2006)

I'm glad ur ok. maybe this med isn't for u, it seems to be taking an awful long time to work. miss talking to u. later.   (Fri Mar 31 1:55 2006)

What exactly am I suppose to be feeling from this med? I take 7.5 mg in the AM and 30 mg in the PM. when I take the 30 at night, I get dizzy. I thought it was working for me but i've had to resort to taking klonopin again. so far 2 days is all i can do without it. It does help me sleep though.    (Fri Mar 31 2:03 2006)

Looks like not too many people are on here anymore. group seems to be shrinking. I will look in here occationally and when more people come in I might be back. See ya......   (Sun Apr 2 3:47 2006)

Sillygal by buddyjoe
Hi Sillygal,
How long have you been on Buspar? I'm on 30 mgs for 5 weeks, I'm still not really sure if it's doing much. It does make me dizzy though, I think it's just an augmenter for other meds.   (Sun Apr 2 18:31 2006)

i've been taking buspar since the 10th of march, about 4 weeks. I don't know what it's doing either. maybe it's working a little. not sure. what is this dizzy thing? will it go away? are u on anything else?     (Tue Apr 4 13:39 2006)

Sillygal by buddyjoe
Yeah, I'm on paxil for 3 weeks. 20 mgs. seems to be working really well, i can hardly believe it.  the dizziness does go away, i don't really get dizzy anymore from buspar.   (Tue Apr 4 15:41 2006)

cool,I'm glad the dizziness does go away. I tried paxil a long time ago. it made me feel like i took too much speed. Today i had anxiety soooo bad i thought i was gonna die. I had to go places and it was so hard. it was like standing too close to the train as it passes by real fast. 1 inch away, and wondering how soon will it take for anyone to notice that you took a step forward. i'm ok now.just a little depressed. like i always am after an episode.so how are u doing? is paxil working for u? do u have just anxiety or depression as well?    (Wed Apr 5 0:45 2006)

It's brave of you to share that info with us, Rosie. I wish you all the best with your recovery. Do you have any kind of follow-up care here in the U.S. lined up? I hope that you have a good doctor...

Re: medical leave, my therapist and psychiatrist both pretty much ordered it because the anxiety attacks at work and the huge disruptions in my sleep were making things worse and worse. My therapist said he thought the pressure of trying to appear "normal" at the office was getting me sicker instead of better. Both docs recommended 4 weeks but it's been almost 2 and I want to go back. I think I'll be easing back into my daily routine gradually starting this Thurs.

Sending love and hope to you all,
Teresa   (Tue May 23 10:34 2006)

the best treatmant for anxiety is doing sport this is the lates new from saintists.......   (Sat Apr 8 16:02 2006)

Ok, girls, I'm ready to share my secret, the surgery I had lap band surgery done in Mexico.  This is where they put a band around your stomach to loose weight.  I think I did this kind of impulsively, I am not horrificly overweight, about 40 lbs or so, but the Lexapro makes me gain and I've been yo yo-ing for years until I reached 165 lbs at 5'2".  Call me vain, but I'm just not used to the excess weight and just go so tired of the up and down of the weight I decided to have this surgery.  Now I'm wondering if I did the right thing, I've become kind of obsessed with this band thing, and everytime I try eating a new food I get totally nerveous and anxious, I'm afraid to get sick.  I still have the horrible shoulder pain, and I keep thinking about it all day long.  Its too late now, I had it done, and the experience at the  hospital in Mexico was great, however, I wonder if I should've stuck it out a little longer before taking such a drastic step.  I know my life will never be the same again, I've been living in pain for 2 weeks and I'm anxious as hell about trying new foods.  Anyway, now that I've said it I feel better.  Different people have different reactions, so I've kind of kept the surgery to myself (most people think I had a hietal hernia removed, which they also did during surgery), the good news, no more reflux for me, no more reflux meds, unfortunately, I smoke, and I've cut down big time (wish I could quit), I've almost cut out caffeine 100% which means I'm sleeping a lot better.  The bad news, I'm not feeling well, my shoulder and back hurt, I'm weak from not eating protein and I'm obsessed with this damn band.  This too shall pass....or will it?  I hope so...but I know this decision I made will be one for the rest of my life (even though it is reversible, not sure I'd want to go in for another surgery).  Carolyn, don't worry too much about the rash, I had a rash that lasted 2 years, after biopsies, allergy tests and being seen by every doctor known to man, they couldn't find anything wrong, it is probably caused by nerves.  My sister suffers from the same thing.  Zyrtec really helped me.  TT, why are you on medical leave?  go back to work girl, the longer you stay away, the harder it will be  for you to go back.  I made the mistake of quitting two jobs (years ago) due to anxiety, and then I became deathly afraid of going to work, until I got a divorce and had no other choice than to go back, don't get to that point, go back, take it slow and deal with your fears at work, eventually you will see nothing more will happen to you and you will feel more comfortable being there.  Jennifer, happy belated anniversay.  Love you all...Rosie   (Tue May 23 8:58 2006)

Re: Shaban by Gary
In a nutshell Shaban is correct. But getting to stable place can be priority before sport. For example, I know I man who had a demanding job and also a demanding wife. They both were abusive in their own right. He was like rat trapped in a corner. And suddenly couldn't handle life anymore. He went clinical with his anxiety/depression(same disease). First step for him was few weeks off and 20mg of Paxil daily. He came back. Then he joined a gym. A place to do sport an be away from job and house. He did counseling. After about 4 weeks he was confronted with making 2 life changes. Wife and job.  It turns out his wife did not want him to leave his job. She liked his often long hours and good pay. Long story short. She was a control freak. He left her. He cleared his head and in 2 months started a new job which he enjoyed.  
   Functioning well in our world has many factors. Never discount your intuition when you feel you are in a corner.
-Gary   (Thu Apr 13 16:03 2006)

Hi ladies,

Rosie, welcome back. I hope your recovery is speedy and thorough. And I'm glad that you've had a distraction from your anxiety!

Carolyn/sillygal, I'm so sorry to hear about what you're going through. Remember to BREATHE and yes, keep going with the mantra--it really WILL pass. We will all get better. I tell myself this every day and I journal a lot to help get me thru the day (I am still on a medical leave of absence from work).

I know, I too am tired of having to take medication, but staying in treatment is a part of being good to ourselves and taking care of ourselves. As my therapist always says, "If you were diabetic, would you view having to take insulin as some sort of personal weakness?"

At the risk of sounding flaky, do you ever try affirmations? I do them in the shower each morning and whenever I start to flip out, and they really help calm me down and ground me.

Sending you lots of love and hope,
Teresa

p.s. Sometimes I think that a frontal lobotomy would be "beneficial surgery" for me. LOL.    (Mon May 22 15:32 2006)

Buspar by Rosie
I've been suffering from anxiety for about 20 years.  I'm 42 now.  I've been on Prozac, Paxil and now Lexapro and they have truly worked, however, even though my doctor has increased the dosage to 30 mg per day and I'm taking 0.25 mg of Klonopin every night, my anxiety is getting worse, not better.  I'd like to take less medicine, not more....was reading about Buspar..I don't really have panic attacks...more like free floating anxiety...chest tightness..lightheadness...palpitations...soforth...any one hear have any suggestions or can tell me how Buspar has worked for them?     (Mon Apr 17 12:21 2006)

I've been taking Buspar now for about a month. I take 40mg every day and i dont know what it's acccually doing if anything. I also take 1/2 mg of klonopin only when i think i need it. The only thing i can really tell you what Buspar has done for me that i know for sure is make me dizzy and give me a headache. I think its an augmenter for other drugs just like buddyjoe said if you read back. I'm still having alot of anxiety. but i try not to take klonopin every day. I'm going to ask my doc if i can stop the buspar and just treat my anxiety with occasional klonopin. I'm not sure what he's gonna say. I want to try celexa but i'm extremely sensitive to meds and their side effects. maybe a tiny dose would help. as long as i can keep my klonopin.    (Mon Apr 17 21:12 2006)

Hi everybody, this is my first post--I just stumbled across this site. Am going through a really rough time and it's beyond a relief to see some of your postings. Makes me feel less crazy and alone.

A little bit about me: I've been on one SSRI or another for about 15 years now (can't believe it's been that long, it really makes me sad). I've taken Celexa or Lexapro for the past few years--first Celexa, then switched to Lexapro because my new insurance covers that but not Celexa for some reason.

A couple months ago I tried cutting back from 20 mg of Lexapro to 10 mg. In addition to being a social worker, I am a new practitioner in the holistic health field and really want to "walk my talk," and have been trying to help heal myself with whole nutrition, meditation, affirmations, etc., not just with medication. So cutting back to 10 mg--which had been my dose until last year when I went up to 20 because things weren't feeling good--was an experiment. Unfortunately, not a successful one. I'm back up to 20 as of 2 weeks ago, but am still feeling terrible. Racing thoughts about my own inadequacy, constant crying, feelings of worthlessness, sense of a total lack of wellbeing in my gut. My therapist sees me as depressive with OCD, though sometimes just plain old "anxiety" seems to describe well what I'm feeling. Especially on a day like today, which I would definitely call a "bad mental health day."

Anyway, I am considering asking for a different type of meds and wondered if Buspar might help, but it looks like most of you have had bad experiences with it.

Thanks for reading this. Sillygal, I found your posts particularly helpful and I appreciate them. Lots of love and hope to you all...T.   (Tue Apr 18 15:12 2006)

Thanks for reading my post as well. I find that the only way to get out of self is to get out and try to help other people. I'm also in the health care profession,which makes it hard for me knowing too much and at the same time ,not knowing enough.I found a wonderful group therapy class for anxiety and depression. everyone in there are professionals. It was great to hear that when i finally opened up, just about everyone was having the same kind of problems. I have what we call frightening fantasies, which lead to severe anxiety and then depression. i havent figured out why i do this and i'm not sure it really matters anyways. the thing is when our minds are racing and chattering all over the place, then we are not in the "NOW". in order to be in control of our minds we must stay in the "NOW". to do this I stop my thinking and ask myself "what is my next thought?" usually there isnt a thought at all. which means i have slowed down the thinking process. This has been very hard for me to do. but with practice i'm sure it will get easier. but if you are like me it will be a life long commitment and a struggle at first. My frightening fantasies are comfortable and familiar. thats why its so hard. Good luck to you. and I will talk to you any time. I check this forum usually daily.
                   HUGS   (Tue Apr 18 23:04 2006)

sillygal by Rosie
Just wondering where that group that you attend is?  I would love to find a group I can go to, I'm in Miami.  Certainly, none of us are alone in this, although we all feel that we are, unfortunately this is an illness that affects so many, its truly sad, because it is a sad illness to have.  I too have suffered for 20 years.  Claire Weeks books help, I keep in in a shelve until I really need them, and then I read and remind myself that there is nothing physically wrong with me, it is my thoughts and fears that are tricking me.  We need to loose our fear of our symptoms....   (Wed Apr 19 13:18 2006)

TT by glideman
hey TT thanks for the post. i have also been
on celexa & lexapro.i took celexa for about five years,then for some reason my psyc doc
changed me to lexapro.lexapro only seemed to work for about a year,then fizzled.i upped the dose from 10mg to 15mg,winthin a week the anxiety had quadrupled.so i went back down to 10mg,but the anxiety didnt get any better.so off lexapro i went over the next 2 weeks down to 2.5mg then switched to effexor xr 37.5 mg which really started to work within a couple of days.i was on it for about 7 mos ,then it fizzled.the doctor then put me back on lexapro,which i have been on now for about six weeks.it has done very little for me,accept side effects.my body still aches all over,im exhausted all the time,cant even walk around the grocery store,without getting winded.has anyone out there had these problems after resumming
a anti-depressant after discontinuing it?
please help?      (Wed Apr 19 19:15 2006)

Hi sillygal, thanks for your post. My dad, who is bipolar, recommended Hope and Help for Your Nerves the last time I had a major "episode" (that was in 2002, when I tried to go off Celexa altogether, then ended up switching to Prozac, which made me so sick that I couldn't eat or sleep normally for about a month). I found it very soothing, and you've just reminded me that now is a good time to re-read it!

Glideman, thanks for sharing your experiences with Lexapro and Celexa. Isn't it so disheartening that SSRIs seems to just stop working after a while? At this point I've used Zoloft, Paxil, Prozac, Celexa, and Lexapro over the years, and I STILL don't feel like I've found something that makes it possible for me to be fully and truly functional. Maybe my hopes are too high, but really, I don't believe that life needs to be this way...I wish I had a better answer to your question.

Sending you all hugs...T.   (Wed Apr 19 21:40 2006)

Meds by Rosie
I also have been on Prozac, Paxil, and Lexapro.  My doctor doesn't want me on Effexor because I take Requip for Restless leg syndrome....does anyone here suffer from restless leg?  Not sure if it has anything to do with my anxiety problem or if its a different thing all together, but the requip helps a lot.  I cut my Lexapro dose myself from 30mg back to 20mg.  I'm really trying to do a lot of self talk and remind myselfthat this monster is all in my head and nothing terrible is going to happen to me.  Self talk does help me...sometimes it helps when I tell someone else, like my husband, speaking about my thoughts and feelings out loud sometimes makes it less frightening, when you say outloud what you are feeling, you realize how silly it is and you become a little more logical.  My problem is at nights more than any other time, I have a hard time going to sleep and feel every little thing my body is doing when I'm doing nothing else but lying in bed, I'm really trying to not become too obsessed with my tight chest or lightheadedness, I remind myself what Claire Weeks says in her book...loose your fear of it and eventually the feeling will go away.  Pay no attention to it....let it pass....I know its hard...but we can help each other get there....   (Thu Apr 20 10:47 2006)

You're right, Rosie; when we say things out loud they lose their power because sometimes we can recognize how unrealistic they are. For me, feeling that I'm worthless because I'm not some hugely accomplished doctor or award-winning writer or something is so preoccupying that it colors EVERYTHING when I'm not in compliance with my full med dosage. Or I get carried away with "crazy thoughts" about all the things I don't know how to do or all the reasons I'm not good enough. It's just so unnecessary, especially considering that even when I'm not feeling okay I recognize how many blessings my life holds. (I'm not religious, but I do believe that I am blessed--my family, friends, neighborhood, access to healthy food, are all wonderful...I just want to appreciate them!)

So funny that I posted last night about my dad recommending Claire Weekes to me a few years ago, because just this morning when I checked my email, I found a note from him saying that I should read Hope and Help for Your Nerves. I said, "You told me that last time! I have it on my shelf." :)    (Thu Apr 20 12:59 2006)

new to all this! by losingmymind
Help! I have just recently been diagnosed with anxiety/panic disorder about 2 months ago. I started having a few episodes about a month before finally seeing a doctor. I have been put on and off several different medications now and I am just losing hope and getting more scared. She started me with Celexa which after 1 dose of a very very small amount made me extremely ill and psychotic and i wound up in the er. then i was on xanax for about 2 to 3 weeks working pretty good for me and no side effects, but the doctor did not want to keep me on that because of the dependency problem, then the xanax effect started to wear off so i agreed to start on another medication with the xanax xr still in the background to help. I started on Depakote sprinkles 125 mg capsules and started with just 1/2 capsule every morning and night. and would increase the dose every few days. well after being on 1 1/2 capsules every morning and night for two weeks and still having anxiety every single day she upped me to 2 capsules of depakote every morning and night(that is only 500mg) and lowered my xanax xr to 1 mg a day. the next two days were hell. I had anxiety constantly, felt sick and had two major panic attacks! So i called the doctor yesterday morning after my pills and she took me completely off of everything i was on cold turkey the xanax and the depakote and said since they were such small doses i should have no problem just coming straight off of them. and then she prescribed lorazepam .5mg to 1mg up to 3 times a day as needed. this is just another kind of benzo. like xanax is. i have taken three doses of this and i just feel sick! It feels like what you would feel like after taking vicodin after a surgery -completely out of it, very weak, nausau, and just weird. I feel like i just have to be laying down and not moving an inch to feel halfway normal! i have already been in bed pretty much all day and will go back to bed after this. and it feels like i have been in bed for weeks now.my husband has had to miss a lot of work, my inlaws have had to come down to help a lot with my kids, i just feel like i can't even be a productive person and can't take care of my kids because i can't even take care of me. Do all these feelings go away eventually? Am i just having side effects from withdrawing off of the other medications? and does the strong knocked out feeling from the lorazepam go away? and what other medications can i try, the ssri's are a no no, the depakote did not work, but i know she won't let me stay on a benzo. for very long. Please help me and please tell me there is hope! Sorry this was so long!   (Thu Apr 20 15:25 2006)

Oh my God...I feel for you...I really do...we've all been through it...but the beginning is the hardest part only because you are not familiar with it and everything scares you.  I have been in your situation, feeling completely hopeless, but its been soooo long now that I'm almost used to it by now, plus there are good and bad days.  You will not always feel this horrible, it will get better.  As far as meds, for me SSRIs are the best, usually the side effects go away, but true healing will come from you, not the meds...don't think of this as your world coming to an end, just learn to deal and live with it as best you can and try not to fear your symptoms.  buy a good book about anxiety and read it, once you can relate to the symptoms they describe, some of it will loose its mistery and frightening effect.  You will continue to be a good mother, daughter and wife, don't even question that.  If you need help getting through these tough times, by all means ask, but don't despair, you will feel better and better.  Don't give up on yourself.  We are all in this together and here to help each other.  Best of luck....God bless you!   (Thu Apr 20 19:12 2006)

well since i'm all the way over here in california i dont think it would do much good . but i go to kiaser in corona.    (Fri Apr 21 1:41 2006)

Honey your not going to lose your mind. It's going to be ok. i promise. I take 1/2 mg klonopin just about every day. sometimes i have to take the whole mg. Klonopin is ok if you stay at a low dose. it is another benzo but for me its not like valium or lorazapam. lorazapam made me sick as heck. and valium really didnt do anything at a low dose and a larger dose made me fall asleep. ssri's are a no no for me too. i also go crazy on them. are you seeing a therapist yet? and a group therapy might be helpful as well. i do all this and write in forums such as this. sometimes we need to stop our minds and ask ourselves what our next thought is. this slows down the chatter in out heads. stay in the "now" look out he window and see what is out there. look at your hand and really study it. i know this sounds stupid but it works it keeps you in the "now" it takes practice . you have friends here and we will help you.    (Fri Apr 21 2:26 2006)

To Sillygal and Rosie by losingmymind
THank you so much for your thoughts of encouragment and support. I am so excited to find this forum and will hope it will be of help over the next few weeks/months of my recovery. I am seeing a therapist now and then of course trying to talk with family and friends no one really understands what i am going thru so to have you all here i think will be a big help. It is now 3am in the morning and I am not sleeping. this is my second day of lorazepam and i think i am going to once again call my therapist tomorrow and beg her to switch me back to just xanax. that is the only medication that i was not having side effects from except for being sleepy sometimes, it was started not to work as well after a few weeks but i am willing to increase my dose if she is, the lorazepam is just making me feel like my body is sedated, almost paralyzed, but not letting my mind rest, so i laid in bed for 4 hours trying to sleep all the while feeling my body fight the effects of the lorazepam, so let's pray she will let me have the xanax back. I had my husband go out tonight and get claire weeke's book that i think is mentioned in this forum or somewhere else and I started reading it and i think it will be a big help as well. I am just excited that i have found you all and can have someone to talk to that knows what i am talking about! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!   (Fri Apr 21 5:06 2006)

You (glideman) mentioned that Lexapro is causing anxiety and teet clenching.  Recently my dosage of Lexapro was increased from 10mg to 20mg a day and yes, I am more anxious and am clenching teeth. I was not aware that Lexapro has these side-effects.  Now am prescribed Buspar to helpo me with the anxiety.
Any thoughts on if this is the right approach or is this just adding to the problem?   (Fri Apr 21 10:13 2006)

I too clench my teeth...but didn't realize it was from the Lexapro...that's very interesting...any one here suffer from restless leg syndrome like me?  For loosingmymind....I'm so glad we can be of help...I mentioned the Claire Weeks books, they really put things in perspective...here are some dos and don'ts she mentions in her book:

Do not run away from fear, analyze it and it as no more than a physical feeling.  Do not be bluffed by a physical feeling
Accept all the strange sensaton connected with your illnest.  do not fight them.  float past them.  Recognize that they are temporary.
Let there be no self pity.
Waste no time on Wht might have been and if only
Be occupied, do not lie in bed, be occupied calmly, not feverishly trying to gorget yourself
Accept your obsessions and be prepared to live with them temporarily.  do not fight them by trying to push them away.  Let time do that.
Your recovery does not necessarily depend "entirely on you" as so many people are so ready to tell you.  You may need help.  Accept it willingly without shame
Do not mesure your progress day by day.  Don't count months, years you have been ill and despaire at the thought of them.
Recovery lies on the other side of panice.  Recovery lies in the places you fear
Do not be discouraged
Practice...don't test
Face...Accept. float, let time pass...if you do this you WILL recover....
I hope this is helpful to you....it is to me...just writing it down makes me feel better...knowing you are not alone in this should come as some relief...If there is anything at all you need...we are here for you...all of us (unfortunaly) suffer from the same thing...and having someone to share your experiences with that understands and has been through it is a good feeling.  Don't despair...you will get better!  Lots of love....   (Fri Apr 21 11:37 2006)

I think you got it going on!!! I hear lots of ways to help myself. My problem is accually applying them to my life. I'm trying to find the red flags that set off my anxiety because by the time I realize I need to do something it's already fullblown. anyways, keep posting, please you are helping me. Thanks!     HUGS   (Fri Apr 21 12:22 2006)

Hey Sillygal...I'm glad I can help...it helps me too to put it in writing...it also to know and remember I'm not the only one, so many people suffer from this, we just don't know because most people we see out in the streets don't talk about their problems.  Just wondering how many people in this forum have jobs and how that affects you?  Also, I personally have a hard time traveling, especially sleeping in an unfamiliar surrounding, does any one else feel like this?  I usually feel a little unreal and anxious, especially at nights.  I am, however, proud of myself, I have, if not totally conquered, partially conquered my fear of flying in an airplane, here is what I do, my fear is when the plane takes off...for some reason, after I'm up in the air, I'm ok...planes don't fall down when in mid air...so I count to 200 very slowly upon take off....I allow myself to be anxious for those 200 counts...my hands sweat and I feel all flushed, after 200 counts...that's it...I can stop worrying and feeling anxious...we are up in the air and nothing can happen up there (at least that's how I feel)...its really helped me conquer my fear of flying...now flying doesn't stop me from going away...hope this can help someone else!  love....Rosie     (Fri Apr 21 12:50 2006)

Sillygal...I forgot to mention something about what you said, don't try to pinpoint the redflags, you probably never will be able to, there are many things that make us anxious, stresses in our lives, however, the important thing is not to redflag them or try to figure out why, most people would be able to handle normal stresses without going into panic, for us, it is the fear of the panic that keeps it coming back, so when you have a particularly stressful time in your life and suffer an anxiety or panic attack, try to accept it and loose your fear of it.  Remind yourself that is  your body's exxagerated reaction to stress, figuring out the root of it usually doesn't help, its loosing your fear of of your symptoms that does, don't think that its too late when it comes, that is precisely the time that you need to accept it and loose your fear of it, try to make it worse...I bet you can't, don't fight it..let it come, accept it and tell yourself its your body and mind playing tricks on you and nothing worse will happen to you.  Tell it to yourself over and over and try to practice and accept it exactly when it comes so it looses its mystery and frightening effect.  Welcome these bouts of panic as a time to practice not to be bluffed by your exxagerated thoughts and feelings, keep telling yourself there is nothing medically wrong with you, and as horrible as you feel, it will pass with no damage to your body and mind.  Panic attacks don't hurt us physically or mentally, we will not go insane or have a heart attack, it will just not happen, the feelings will go away eventually.  Accept them, loose your fear of them, as they happen, don't try to placate them or stop them from happening, it will make it worse, welcome them as an opportunity to practice not being afraid.  You are strong and you have a lot of courage.  It takes less courage to accept it then to fight them.  Accept, accept and go on....   (Fri Apr 21 13:02 2006)

It's me again, This constant anxiety is about to make me go crazy. I'm tired of having to take something for it everyday. I try and see how long i can last each day without my PRN. (klonopin) and I turn into this hyper talkative paranoid freak. then it hits me how i'm acting and feeling , and anxiety kicks in full force. I retreat to my room when i can, if not i try to hide. And God forbid if anything on my body hurts at all. cause ya know that means im gonna die. This sucks! it really sucks! So of course i'm back on the klonopin. i'm calm but pissed. Now i have this really weird rash on my arms. its like red little dots. and of course i looked it up on line. what i found out scared me to death. but i'm not acting on it cause i know i'm just being stupid. if it gets worse then i will see the doc. Just another freaking flippin day. And oh yea, "this too shall pass"
     HUGS
Carolyn    (Mon May 22 1:33 2006)

thanks Rosie, that will give me something to practice as hard as it sounds i know i need to try this. My life is one big ball of stress and there is no getting away from it outside of dying. and if i can help it, thats not gonna happen.
Glideman: are you ok? remember i'm here for you. I know i havent been exactly where you are with your meds right now, but if there is anything i can do for you, you can call me or email me, you know my address.
To everyone here: you are all great! this is the best group i've been in. on or off the internet. anyone want to see my web page its    www.tagworld.com/carolyn45   (Fri Apr 21 14:28 2006)

You are a beautiful woman with a beautiful family, you are lucky.  Is that your baby?  Did you recently give birth?  You mention grandchildren so I'm thinking baby might be a grandchild...what a young and pretty grandmother...I never knew of this website...I'm going to creast my own page...sounds like fun...   (Fri Apr 21 14:41 2006)

thanks so much by losingmymind aka jennifer
i want to thank everyone again for being on this forum i think i am going to get exactly what i need from it. last night was horrible with the lorazepam, i got 2 whole hours of sleep, so i have quit that and got the okay from therapist to go back to the xanax-praise the lord! I know it was losing some of it's effect towards the end when i was on it, but i am willing to deal wtih a little anxiety as long as there is no more horrible side effects. Plus i have already read 64 pages of Hope and help for your Nerves and it has given me some hope! I think it is going to be pretty difficult to try to relax and give in to the anxiety and panic instead of trying to fight it, and that it will take a lot of practice and time to be able to doit, but i am so willing to try in order to get even one day of peace! Thank God for all of you, keep posting all your ideas and your thoughts- they give me strength!   (Fri Apr 21 15:08 2006)

yey Jennifer by Rosie
There you go...you sound so much more hopeful than last time...that's an improvement alone! Your tone is different, you sound like you know your outlook is brighter!  Good for you girl...I'm home today and have been in the computer all day, usually this is not really an option for me, but today it is...keep reading that book!!!!   (Fri Apr 21 15:17 2006)

Hey Sillygal..I've spent all day putting together a website just like yours...take a look at it and tell me what  you think of my family http://www.tagworld.com/ROSIE42/World/MyWeb.aspx
Sorry to be such a copy cat, but yours was soooo cool!   (Fri Apr 21 21:04 2006)

Yes, restless legs is also on m "list".  Very annoying.  Happens at strange moments.  Found out that it also has to do with what I eat.
Example: caffeine containing food or drinks, like coke or chocolate. Also Chinese food has that effect, mainly the MSG that triggers it.
Am new to this forum, joined yesterday,but has helped me already understand more and see that there are others that have the same as I have.
Thanks all !!   (Sat Apr 22 3:33 2006)

HI ROGER by Rosie
I take Requip for restless leg, its very helpful, I have a very bad case of it, I need the meds every night, some people only have it every once in a while.  Glad you are finding some relief in reading some of our posts.  I think it helps us all.  I'm kinda new too, I'm very glad I found this site.  By the way, Roger, has the Buspar helped you at all?  seems that its effects are very mild based on what I have read.     (Sat Apr 22 11:46 2006)

reiki anyone? by losingmymind aka jennifer
Just wondering if anyone has tried reiki therapy to help with their anxiety. It sounds pretty interesting and I am looking at trying it. Since obviously the meds aren't doing much good and giving too many side effects I am looking at all other options- I am trying to do the techniques in claire weekes book, but i know it will take a while to be able to relax and let the anxiety happen so i am looking at other ways to help with relaxation.   (Sat Apr 22 15:44 2006)

Have read about REQUP. Do not know if is available here in The Netherlands, will look in to it. Currently am using INHIBIN (quinine hydrochloride) for the restless legs, have to take it for several weeks and then it helps for weeks and sometimes months.
The Buspar I have just started taking two days ago, so bit early to know if it works. The drug decsription says it may take a week or two before it works.
Have used Xanax before, but don't like that:
1. over time you have to increase dosage for it to work  
2. it is very easy to get too used to it
3. half-life is short, so it does not work very long

In short, I hope the Buspar works.

Thanks for your message.
Roger   (Sat Apr 22 16:09 2006)

REIKI THERAPY by Rosie
I have never heard of this...what is it?   (Sat Apr 22 16:33 2006)

Hey everybody, I missed a lot in the last couple of days! Jennifer, welcome aboard; Rosie and Sillygal, thanks so much for sharing your wisdom with us. It makes me feel 1000% better to read that other people experience similar stuff...I don't think I can say that enough times! Thank goodness you are all here. I am seriously struggling with feeling a joylessness and constant sense of a lack of wellbeing that is so otherwise out of character for me when treatment is going well. I'm so tired of this, so sick of feeling helpless and hopeless, and I just keep hanging on knowing that better days are coming. They have to. I see my psychiatrist in a week and a half and I want to talk about trying something besides Lexapro because I just don't think it's that effective for me.

On a different note, Rosie, Reiki is a natural healing technique that involves hands-on energy work from a practitioner. This is from reiki.org, and sums it up better than I could:

"Reiki is a Japanese technique for stress reduction and relaxation that also promotes healing. It is administered by "laying on hands" and is based on the idea that an unseen "life force energy" flows through us and is what causes us to be alive. If one's "life force energy" is low, then we are more likely to get sick or feel stress, and if it is high, we are more capable of being happy and healthy."

I took a Reiki level 1 course and was attuned as a beginning practitioner, but never went further with it (you need to practice a lot and get beyond level 3 to become a Reiki master and be able to attune and teach others). It's a little too...passive for me, and I find that trying to do Reiki is a bit abstract for my tastes, but I do think it has benefits. Right now I'm more interested in possibly pursuing yoga teacher training and doing my own meditation and prayer rituals for myself. I do love complementary and natural therapies, and find them tremendously soothing...

Sorry, this got really long! Sending warmth and love to you all. T.   (Sat Apr 22 19:17 2006)

Reiki by Jennifer
TT explained it pretty well, you can look it up on the internet, i am not looking into taking classes to be a teacher of it, i just want to go and get the therapy myself. It is something like the therapist that does it uses a hands on or hands close to your body and certain areas of your body to bring the universal energy of love and compassion to you. It is used a lot for cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy and for other medical illnesses to give the people relaxation, less anxiety and a more positive mood. I am going to get a massage tomorrow and the massage therapist is suppose to explain more about it to me because this salon actually offers the reiki therapy so i can tell you more about it after that, at least what this salon does. then if i try it i can tell you how it works. I am up for anything right now! You all have a wonderful night! I might check in later!
Lots of love,
Jennifer   (Sat Apr 22 21:34 2006)

That sounds soooo awsome! I'm gonna look that up too. I wonder if it's expensive therapy. I'm also wondering if my insurance covers it. I feel so hyper tonight. I just got off work, and I didnt use any klonopin today. Yea!!I made it through the day. Now all i have to do is try to sleep. I'm exhausted but my mind is racing. well off to bed i go. gnite everyone. peace!
HUGS   (Sun Apr 23 2:57 2006)

Any members who take Buspar.   How much do you take per day?  My doctor has prescribed 3 times 5mg a day to start with.   (Sun Apr 23 6:44 2006)

#23881 by Rosie
My friends, I'm no expert, but I have probably read every book about anxiety and depression out there...true healing will come from within, we all want a quick fix, something that will make us better fast, there are things that help, this therapy might be one of the, meds is another, and by all means, try them...but don't give up on your power of healing yourself.  I'm telling you, it works...loose your fears, don't fear your symptoms, accept them, try to go with them, while they're happening, tell yourself over and over that this is a trick that your mind and your body are playing on you, this is all the extra adrenalin going through your body...you will not have a heart attack, and you will not go crazy...I promise you!  Nothing worse will happen...accept it, loose your fear of it and it WILL go away...I'm living proof!  TT...don't despair...find something interesting to do that you enjoy, keep your mind occupied so you don't have so much time to think of yourself, think of this as a temporary setback, and a time to practice loosing your fear of your feelings.  I know you think I sound crazy when I say this, but welcome these feelings as a chance to practice accepting them, once you do, you will loose interest in yourself and start being interested in the outside world.  This illness is one that requires a lot of courage..all of you are very brave...I love you all....best of luck!   (Sun Apr 23 10:21 2006)

You are absolutely right, Rosie. I know that you are. I just have to get through this...and try to get out of my head somehow. All I want to do is sleep lately, I am just waiting for the higher dosage of Lexapro to kick in and make me start to feel vaguely "normal" again. I have to go back to work tomorrow morning after a couple of days off and I'm a little scared but thinking that at least it will keep me busy.

By the way, reiki is not usually covered by health insurance (as unfortunately most complementary therapies are not), but you can sometimes find low-cost reiki and acupuncture clinics offering sessions. Try doing a Google search to see what's in your area.

Lots of love, Teresa (TT)   (Sun Apr 23 13:38 2006)

TT and RogerR by sillygal
Thanks TT , I will do a google search. and RogerR, I take 45 mg buspar a day. thats also what i started off with. I think it's helping. not sure. i dont want to stop it to find out. take care
              HUGS   (Sun Apr 23 13:56 2006)

reiki by Jennifer
Okay, my salon yesterday no longer has a certified person able to do reiki so they could not tell me much, so i did more research online and have emailed someone specializing in it and am waiting to hear more. I can tell you that the message I got yesterday did wonders for me, especially with helping me relax and I had a wonderful night last night and am having a great day so far today, so if the massage can do that much good, I am really excited to see how much help Reiki might be able to do. I think when your physical body feels more relaxed it helps your mind be more at ease and might help you to be able to "float" past the anxiety symptoms. Lots of love to everyone!
Jennifer   (Mon Apr 24 16:51 2006)

reiki by sillygal
Thanks Jennifer, i also asked someone about it and i think i was misinformed. They said it was some kind of sexual healing. I'm like , oh really.I think this person may have had issues in this area when they tried it. lol
oh well, let us know what you find out. i'm a little skittish to try first now.   (Mon Apr 24 17:15 2006)

no way! by Jennifer
Reiki is in no way a kind of sexual healing. It might have been for that person in particular. Reiki is used to help people with all sorts of illnesses, diseases, stresses, all either physical, mental or spiritual! The therapist either lightly places their hands on different areas of you or has their hands several inches away from you and they pull the bad energy/kharma away from you and give to you healing, peaceful energy. Not sexual in any way. So it just might have helped that person with their sexual problem. Like i mentioned earlier it is used in a lot of hospitals for cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy to give them relaxation and less anxiety! Hope this helps and makes you less afraid of it, i sure am still excited about it!   (Mon Apr 24 21:46 2006)

I'm so upset, my son just called me from jail. they said he assaulted someone very seriously. his pregnant girlfriend is left some where out there on the streets. she doesnt have the sence to even come out of the rain. shes too far away and i cant do anything about it but pray. and i think shes on drugs. even if i could find her i still cant help her. she wont stay anywhere where there is rules, she wont listen to anyone, shes only 19. i feel so helpless. and i feel guilty. i want to go to my favorite place which is the train track. stand real close and let the wind and the roar of it all take me away. but i dont think it will help this time, the train will go by and my anxiety and reality will still be here. i hope you all dont think i'm crazy, i couldnt think of any place else to vent.    (Tue Apr 25 2:24 2006)

Sent an email to your email address.
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To Siilygal by Rosie
Vent...vent all you need to...some things, though, my friend, are out of your control.  Your son is a grown man, and so is his girlfriend, all you can do is advise them to do the right thing, but its up to them.  You can't make yourself sick about it, don't get me wrong, I have sons too (as you know) and I know how you feel, but he is 22 years old, a grown man, he has to make his own choices, and he's making the wrong ones, and the one suffering is you.  If he had some real sense of responsibility, he would do the right thing, for his baby, for his girlfriend, for his mother, but most importantly for himself.  You cannot do it for him and you are making yourself sick over it.  Advise him of what the right thing to do is, I'm sure you have, but ultimately, its his life, and his decision, he can choose to listen to you or choose not to, you are doing the best you can, you cannot take care of the world, take care of yourself first.  Urge them to find a good family for that baby, that's all you can do, the baby is not at fault, but they are grown ups.  Sometimes when people hit rock bottom, they have no where else to go but up.  Maybe they have to hit that rock bottom to learn from their mistakes.  But by all means, remember you cannot fix everything, you need to take care of yourself, and remind  yourself that some things are just out of your control.  Best of luck, and lots of love....Rosie   (Tue Apr 25 8:48 2006)

Been reading the various comments on Buspar and the dosages that are used.  My Doctor has started me on 3 times 5mg daily, as stated in the medication paper.  Have not really felt a difference, but then it has only been 5 days since starting.
Some people do not feel Buspar is doing much, or say "not sure it is doing something".  Some say it is working really well.  
What I like about it (at least if this is correct) is that it does not have muscle-relaxing consequences and does not "addict".  Any opinions about this by people who have been using it a bit longer?
Used to take Xanax.  Works well, but was taking more and more of it.  And have had a hard time to stop using it.   (Tue Apr 25 9:56 2006)

Be back in a week by Jennifer
I will be leaving to go visit my in-laws with my two little girls this afternoon and will be back next tuesday. Probably won't be able to have computer contact there so won't be submitting anymore until then. This will be the first time I have been for a long car ride (4 hours) since my anxiety has gotten so worse so wish me luck and I will be without my husband for 5 days- we thought it would be a good transition before next week when he has to go back to work and i will left at home alone every evening with just the kids, because at his parents house i will be left alone in a room at night but if i need them then i could still go wake his parents up. I wish the best for all of you this week and I pray for each and everyone of you peace and happiness and I ask that you all do the same for me. Thanks!   (Tue Apr 25 11:19 2006)

It's all good by sillygal
Thanks Roger and Rosie. I appreciate your feed back. Roger I tried zanax once and it made me feel like crap. I have klonopin for situations such as this. i didnt have to take any though. its weird, I need it for the little crap in life but the big stuff i handle without it. 15 mg a day buspar is such a small amount. do you feel anything from it? headache? dizziness? my doc just gave me a prescription for 45mg and said you know what to do. play with it and see how it works. well thanks everyone for the feedback. and Jennifer: have fun on your trip. I'm going on vacation next monday and probably wont be back til friday or so. going up to see my grandkids in san fransisco. good luck Jennifer. you will be fine. just remember to stay in the "NOW".    (Tue Apr 25 12:42 2006)

Been taking the Buspar now 7 days.  Feel very strange.  Down.  As if my depression is coming back.  Am taking 20mg Lexapro, and was feeling better since increasing the dosage of Lexapro from 15 to 20 mg 6 months ago.  But the anxiety started coming back 2 months ago and could not handle it anymore so asked the Doctor and got Buspar last week.  But now am down again.  Don't seem to be improving.  Feel empty.  And cannot start doing anything.  Feel tired also.  Feel really weird.  As if I am constantly amazed about how I feel now and that I am in this situation.  On the one side my mind keeps "turning around" and on the other side nothing comes out of my hands.  Don't know how to get out of this.  Stop the Buspar?  Increase doage?  Go back to Xanax?  Don't like going back to Xanax.
Roger     (Wed Apr 26 5:37 2006)

Roger by Rosie
Hey Roger...why don't you give it a little longer.  Might just be the beginning of the Buspar.  Keep yourself busy, do you work?  Keep your mind off of how you feel so much.  Maybe you are concentrating so hard on analyzing how you feel that you are noticing every little thing.  Try not to think about it so much, just let time take its course.  Find something you enjoy doing, and do it, try to focus your energy and thoughts outside of yourself, it can do wonders.  Good Luck to you...Rosie   (Wed Apr 26 8:34 2006)

Rosie, Thank you very much for your kind words.  Makes so much sense what you say.  Now I just have to do it.  It is so easy to start "looking at yourself" constantly, and analyzing how you feel, and then of course thinking that you do not feel well.
Patience with the Buspar. I will try.
Thanks again!
   (Wed Apr 26 9:59 2006)

to all by glideman
i have done extensive research on buspar.it is one of those anti-anxiety drugs that only works on about 20% of those who take it.but for that 20% it is aGODSEND.unfortunately i was not one of the lucky ones.the researc says you must give it 2 to 4 weeks at steady dose to see full
benefits.if after that time,nothing it is probably not going to help.once again im no doctor but have become very educated on just about every med out there for anxiety.

one other tidbit of imformation for all.there is a book that can be purchased online that has literally changed my life,i used to have about 5-7 panic attacks per week.i had read every book i could get my hands on,prcticed every method concievable,with no success.after purchasing this e-book online,reading this mans simple method,& putting it into action.
i swear i litterally have not had one panic
attack since december 2005.this method is so
stupidly simple,yet extremely effective,as rosie has stated,take away your fear & it will run from you.

sorry for the long post,been gone for awhile.trying to wean off lexapro & start on a new antidepressant.could not deal with
leaxpro 2nd time around,side effects were doubled.anxiety quadrupled,yet antidepressant effect almost non existant even after 7 weeks.well gotta go,love & prayers for all who suffer not so silently,but together.     (Wed Apr 26 22:51 2006)

to all by glideman
oh by the way,sorry,it would have helped if i had given the website for this truly remarkable method for not only disempowering
panic attacks but making them go away for ever.  panicportal.com   (Wed Apr 26 22:55 2006)

WOW. I wanted to ask you about the surgery but thought it was none of my business. Like TT said I hope you have follow up appointments. it sounds like you might be having a reaction or something. Please , keep doc appts its very important.
I do not think you are vain. but i do think you are brave. I'm 5'3" and 170 lbs. but ya know i do wish i were skinnier and maybe if i could afford it i might get lipo. but thats about it. I know i just need to get off my lazy butt and work out and exersize.
just remember, whats done is done. get well and enjoy the benefits. take care of yourself
HUGS
Carolyn    (Tue May 23 18:01 2006)

Hey yea! your back! im so glad you are alright. i hope your surgery benifits you. I wish i could get a beneficial surgery,. ha ha. just kidding i have no idea what im saying. anyways, my son is looking at 2 or 3 years for assault. the young lady is nowhere to be found. her mother wont answer my calls. I dont know . My son gave me the name of two shelters that she may be at i will look them up later. gotta go to work, luv ya and its good to hear from you again.
HUGS!!! Carolyn   (Sat May 20 16:22 2006)

Hi everyone by Rosie
I've been out of commission for a while, recuperating from my surgery, I've been feeling crappy and had to go to the ER one night with extreme shoulder pain due to gas after the surgery.  I know being the hypochondriac that I am that my mind probably exaggerated the pain, I thought I was having a heart attack or a blood clot traveling to my lungs, what a relief when everything came back fine. Anyway, isn't it funny how when we are preoccupied with other things we don't think about our anxiety as much?  I've been so preoccupied with my shoulder I haven't even thought about being anxious, I've even cut out some of my meds.  I too love that saying "this too shall pass"  of course, that should be out motto, it all passes eventually, what a great mantra.  Jennifer, those friends were not true friends if they have deserted you.  In a way, you are lucky, you only experience anxiety when you are alone, so you have an out, for many less fortunate people, its constant.  Car...I'm so glad you didn't get into too much trouble at work, you don't need more to worry about.  Anything on your son and his girlfriend?   (Sat May 20 16:05 2006)

I lowered my dose of buspar to 30 mg a day. 7.5mg in the a.m. and 22.5mg in the p.m. the headaches are now gone. the dizziness is also gone. I'm still taking klonopin every day though. I know i need to stop drinking coffee in the morning cause it triggers anxiety. I've been reading this book that glideman sent me. panic free. it says to not fight the panic attacks but welcome them , and ride them through. this is NOT easy to do. in fact, for me right now its imposible. try it when you are really having aa paanic attack. i think you will agree. but i will keep reading and maybe it will give me more tools to make it easier, we will see. i will let you all know.
                  HUGS   (Sat Apr 29 13:53 2006)

I just figured it out. i've been saying that i take 1/2mg klonopin every day and thats not correct, my bottle says 0.5mg so if im only taking half a pill then its 0.25mg. not as bad as i thought. well if i could just lay off the coffee maybe i wouldnt even have to take it every day. oh i forgot to say in my last post. for the ones who remember my post about standing next to the train as it passes, well i'm not gonna do that anymore. the other day i was just standing there minding my own business and all of a sudden someone throws me to the ground. it made me mad. but then later i thought about it, and how was he suppose to know i wasnt there to kill myself. so that stupid tool is no longer. i think i will get me a tape of a train. and turn it up real loud with head phones on. it should probably have the same effect. please nobody out there try what i did its dangerous. i guess im a moron, it takes getting my head slammed to the ground to wake up. enjoy your week end everyone!!!! and stay safe and in the now.
                        HUGS   (Sat Apr 29 15:22 2006)

#24167 by Rosie
I also take 25 mg of Klonopin every night, I think I needed it because one of Lexapro's side effects is not being able to sleep.  Anyway, sillygal, how are your things going with your son and so forth?  Any better?   (Sun Apr 30 12:27 2006)

#24696 by Jennifer
I love it! "This too shall pass". And hey if you feel like whining, you go for it, I think that is what this board is for. I think our family might get tired of us complaining because they don't quite understand,but we all understand so please vent, whine, cry, yell, do what you need to do to make it for the day, the hour, the minute! You are in my thoughts constantly since you are going thru exactly what I am going thru- we will make it thru, don't know when or how, but we can do it, until then we just do what we can. LOL
Jennifer   (Fri May 19 19:16 2006)

Sorry I haven't been around much lately. I hope you are all feeling okay.

Sillygal, I think your idea of a train tape is a great one, and I wish you the best with it. You are NOT a moron!

Also wanted to offer some advice on quitting coffee, if you don't mind hearing it! There is a wonderful drink called Teeccino that I'm totally hooked on--it's an herbal coffee that is natural and caffeine free. You brew it like coffee. You could try using half Teeccino and half coffee in your morning cup and then gradually increasing the Teeccino until you're not drinking regular caffeinated coffee any more. Or you could try having 2 glasses of water first thing in the morning and then some green tea, and see how that feels.

My dad had just told me about welcoming the panic attacks rather than fighting them--but the morning anxiety I have is something I can't exactly embrace because I have to get ready for work! I want to meditate each morning but am having a hard time getting up early enough to do that and then feeling settled enough to actually sit down for a few minutes. It's a challenge, to be sure.

So my news: I'm up to 30 mg Lexapro now and my psych prescribed Valium, but I'm only taking a little bit of it (one 5 mg pill each night before bed to aid in not having so much anxiety and shakiness in the mornings). Still battling feelings of worthlessness/hopelessness and racing thoughts about my inadequacies, but I'm functional for the most part, so that's good.

Wishing you all peace and love and hope,
Teresa   (Mon May 1 9:55 2006)

Meant to include this info: you should be able to find Teeccino at any health food store or online at http://www.teeccino.com.   (Mon May 1 9:56 2006)

Down today.  Alover feeling like there is a blanket around my brain.  Buspar now for 10 days, don't know what is happening with that.  Down AND anxiety !  What next?  Strange sensations of being down and having this feeling of anxiety in my chest.  Been reading about Klonopin of various members.  Would that work?  And does the combination of Buspar and Klonipin not give any problems?   Am getting so tired from this anxiety feeling.  Is wearing me down.  

   (Mon May 1 10:32 2006)

Adding to previous post.
In description of Buspar it is mentioned that usage of benzodiazepines with Buspar will decrease the effect of Buspar.  Anyone has any experience with this?   (Mon May 1 11:24 2006)

I'm having a hypocondriach moment....I know it sounds silly, but my upper back on the left side has been hurting for days.  Of course, I think I have lung cancer, (if its not terminal, I don't have it, I only have terminal illnessess...LOL) also, when I go to bed at night, my food comes back up my esophogus and I feel like I'm choking, I know its probably reflux but my crazy mind is thinking horrible things.  Any words of wisdom to make me realize what a fool I'm being?   (Tue May 2 11:10 2006)

Hi Rosie,
First of all, you are not being a fool--your mind is trying to fool you, that's all! There's a big difference.

Can you try some affirmations about your health to repeat over and over in your mind or out loud when you start feeling the hypochondria? Something like "I am well and healthy and my body knows how to heal itself." Sometimes affirmations are the only thing keeping me from feeling completely nuts myself. :)

Meantime, can you see a doctor or try an over the counter remedy for the reflux, if you're not already doing so? Hang in there.

Love, T.   (Tue May 2 14:44 2006)

I'm back! by Jennifer
Hello again to everyone, I am back from visiting with the in-laws with the kids and the week went better than I had expected, I only had a few bouts of anxiety while there, but of course I was kept very busy and had someone with me 24 hours a day so I was not alone and had help with the kids. The real test will start tomorrow afternoon when my husband goes to work and I am left alone with the kids for the first time in several weeks. The anxiety is always worse when I am alone, especially after the kids are all in bed and I am just left with trying to keep my self preoccupied so that I don't think about the anxiety and bring it on. So say a little prayer for me for this week that all goes well. I did sign up for a reiki therapy treatment and I go tonight for my first appointment. I will let you all know how it goes and if it is better than getting a massage for relaxation, etc. Everyone have a wonderful night!   (Tue May 2 16:31 2006)

Hi Jennifer, welcome back, and I'm glad to hear the week went well. It's hard to be alone, isn't it? I'm definitely finding that to be the case, and I have the TV on more often than usual to keep me company. (My partner and I broke up back in November, and the last time I'd had a major breakdown like this was in 2002 when we were still together, so navigating this on my own has been tricky.) I will definitely keep you in my thoughts, and I wish you the best with Reiki. I am going for a hypnotherapy session myself tomorrow night, looking forward to it!

Does anybody live in the NYC area, by the way? Just wondering.    (Tue May 2 16:58 2006)

to TT by Jennifer
Being alone is definitely not a good thing, but I guess now I am really not alone since I have all of you! Good luck with your hypnotherapy session, you will have to tell us how that goes. I am in Colorado!   (Tue May 2 17:33 2006)

Yeah...being alone sucks...I hate it too, I have to travel for business sometimes and hate staying in a hotel by myself, but Jennifer, these are the things, we have to overcome, what we are most afraid of.  When I got divorced (12 years ago), I had never lived alone in my life, I went from my parents house to my married home, it was really really hard to get used to living alone (even though I had two small kids), I actually stayed at my mom's for about 2 weeks, then  my niece stayed with me for about 2 more, eventually, she left too, I couldn't even turn on the AC, because the noise would scare me, (and I live in Miami), girl...it was hell...but you know what?  people get used to everything, and eventually, you loose your fear of it.  Try staying in the couch a couple of nights, then leave your TV on...and so forth, desensitize yourself little by little, eventually you won't even think about it.  Sad thing is for me, I remarried 4 years ago and again, I'm used to having someone with me, so when I go away, I have to start from scratch...funny, huh?  Thanks TT for the kind words...I feel a little better (mentally) about my reflux, I did some research on the internet and found all my symptoms are very common, the internet can be a scary thing for people like us, we don't need to know more than we need to, but sometimes....its a lifesaver (literally)....Lots of love to you all...     (Tue May 2 20:08 2006)

Roger by Rosie
Hi Roger, haven't heard from you...how have you been doing?  Any luck with that Buspar?   (Tue May 2 20:17 2006)

reiki by Jennifer
Reiki was great tonight. I would say it had the same relaxation effects on me as a massage, you just feel like jello and completely relaxed afterwards. The only difference was that during the therapy I would keep having this weird feeling or rush of something from my feet and all the way thru my body and out my head! It was kinda freaky at first. The therapist said that I obviously was very sensitive to energy and that I had a lot of built up energy. So maybe this was better than a massage if it was really getting rid of built up energy in me. I am going to see how I feel over the next few days because she said since I had so much energy and that I was able to feel it that I might still be getting some of the same feelings over the next few days and might start to feel different. So I think if I don't feel terrible over the next few days I might try the Reiki next month again before I make my final decision on what I think is best for me- that or massage. So I say go ahead and try the Reiki!   (Tue May 2 23:09 2006)

I love various relaxation methods but even during them I still have a very hard time turning my brain off (the racing thoughts never really stop, even if they wane at times). Had a very bad morning when I got up today--panicky, racing thoughts, felt sick. I had to take a Valium so that I could get centered enough to get ready for work and leave the house. Don't like taking Valium but on occasion I guess I have to. Yoga last night wasn't as good an experience as I'd hoped; I couldn't go inward without getting so very distracted by my own thoughts. I am so tired of this, so sick of this lack of wellbeing in my gut, so sick of feeling inadequate in every way. I just want it to end. Thanks you guys for listening (well, reading). Take care. TT   (Wed May 3 9:26 2006)

to TT by jennifer
I am so sorry you are having such a rough day, I was having a really bad week about two weeks ago and felt just like you, I had done 3 medication changes that week and had just about lost all hope, because I was still so anxious as well as having all the side effects from the medications. It was horrible. Then I just had to say you know what , I am sick of all this and I really have to do some research and figure out a way to start feeling at least halfway decent. So I got off all that crappy medication, except now I have my xanax I take daily which for me at least has no side effects whatsoever, not even any nausea- it just barely takes the edge off for me so I can still feel the anxiety but can better cope with it with the other techniques I am working on. I have two very hyperactive children that I have to watch bymyself at night so during the day we are trying to make sure that I find several relaxation, etc. things to do before my husband leaves so I can try to get my nerves and body at a lower level of sensitivity before the kids and the loneliness raise that sensitivity and I go into panic mode. I also have a very hard time doing the meditation stuff that I have just begun because my mind wanders, but the reiki therapist last night said that is perfectly normal and that people give up on meditation because they say they can't do it because their mind wanders. She said to just continue to do it and whenever your mind starts to wander, stop yourself and say okay so i am thinking about what is for dinner right now let's stop that and go back to thinking about my breathing. It is just a continuous mind game you have to play with yourself and when you start wandering you have to acknowledge it and then make yourself go back to other thinking. Kinda like the same thing Claire Weeke's book says about the anxiety symptoms, whenever you start getting them, stop allow yourself to recognize that they are there, accept them, and then continue on with what you are doing. I know for a fact that is very very hard to do but I am working on it and it is getting a little easier. I am trying to come up with a schedule for myself where I do some small amount of physical activity a day, two small/short relaxation or meditation activities and then at night after I get the kids to bed I will be doing my pilates. I find the pilates really does help because I have a 60 minute tape and during the tape I am so focused on watching the exercises and trying to do them that my mind cannot think about anything else except doing the exercises so that at least gives me an hour of no anxiety, unlike when you are just riding your bike or doing the treadmill your mind is allowed to wander-same with yoga, but with pilates I have to really watch the people on the tape and concentrate so you might want to give it a try. Hope you have a good night and I will probably check back in tonight since I am alone now except for the kids. Sorry this was so long! LOL   (Wed May 3 18:19 2006)

Hi Rosie,  Well, I don't know.  Been taking it now two weeks, upped the dose to 3 times 10mg per day.  But can't seem to shake off this "down" feeling.  Been looking at the Klonopin (Rivotril), but am afraid of any potential interactions it might have (Klonopin being a benzodiazepam).  All in all don't feel a "happy camper".  Now, my life is in a bit of a flux at the moment, so that does not help either.  Is difficult to become "grounded" and be steadfast when doubting many things and being under the influence of medication.  At the moment I am still taking (and need to take) 20mg of Lexapro, and am taking the 3 x 10mg of Buspar.  The other day I tried a Klonopin before going to sleep, and I must admit I slept well and felt relaxed the next morning.  But as with Xanax the effect of Klonopin wears out and then you are back to zero.  Amd still hoping that the Buspar will "kick in" soon.  Don't really know what to do when it does not work for me.  I will give it another week or so.
Thanks for your note,
Ciao,
Roger   (Thu May 4 4:41 2006)

That was so helpful to read, Jennifer; thank you. I have been having "monkey mind," as they call it, during my attempts at meditation--you know, where your mind is jumping all over the place rather than calming down. And I know that's totally normal. I am reading like five different self-help books right now, LOL, trying lots of approaches. I am very lucky in that I have found places to take yoga and deep relaxation classes for free in the city (I am good at finding free/low-cost things, which works out well since I don't work in a high-paying profession!) So I am continuing with those things.

Also, last night I had a private hypnotherapy session for the first time. I will be going every other week and hoping that helps in addition to the higher dosage of Lexapro. If the higher dosage doesn't do anything by the next time I see my psych (in 2 weeks) we might change to Lamictal. Anybody had experience with that one?

Wishing you all love and inner peace, Teresa   (Thu May 4 11:06 2006)

I thought I would share with you all some of the other stuff besides all the new meditation, massages, reiki, etc.(and all my scrapbooking) that I am doing to try to keep busy and get myself back into the real world. I just went today and applied to start volunteering at my local hospital one day a week- I think that will be great because it will get me back in touch with adults and other people to talk too, since I am a stay at home mom now. And working in the hospital should be good since I am a nurse although when I was working I was a school nurse so do not know my way around the hospitals too well, but it should be fun anyways. I think I will be doing just 4 hours one day a week so I am hoping that will help. ALso last year I actually trained for and fundraised for and walked 40 miles in the Avon Walk for Breast Cancer here in Denver. And this year I am going to be a crew member(not walking this year- just helping out). I am really excited about that-fighting for breast cancer is where my heart really is! As a crew member I do not have to fundraise this year, but I am doing it anyways so if any of you would like to visit my webpage it is http://walk.avonfoundation.org/site/TR?pg=personal

If that does not work, just go to avonwalk.org, then to donate, then the city is denver and my name is Jennifer bryant. Even if you don't want to donate you can just look at my page and see a picture of me- I already took my kids pictures off the page, but maybe i will put them back on later. I am the one on the left of both pictures. So wish me luck in all my endeavors and just pray that I am not overloading myself. I got pretty anxious after my tour of the hospital this morning and after speaking with the volunteer coordinator. But I think that is just basically the same kind of anxiety that anybody would have with like starting a new job, etc. Last night, my first night alone went so so, so we will see how tonight goes. LOL to everyone!
Jennifer   (Thu May 4 19:26 2006)

Panic Attacks by Shandell
Hello,
I have been having panic attacks for the past 10 years. I have been to therapists and MDs. I have been on Zoloft,Paxil, Effexor, and now Buspar. NOTHING is working! Arrggh! My Dr just prescribes a higher dose. I want off the Buspar. I am very interested in any help you can offer. I have ordered some herbal teas and "remedies" and am really considering hypnotherapy. I excercise every other day, I do yoga too. And still I have at least three major panic attacjs a week while I am taking 50mg of Buspar! What's going on???
   (Thu May 4 20:38 2006)

To Shandell by Jennifer
I don't even know what to say, I can't even imagine having to deal with them for 10 years or how you have managed to deal with them for 10 years! It has only been a few months for me and only a few weeks with severe problems and I thought I was not going to make it, so I want to say first of all is I admire your strength and courage to be able to deal with this for so long. I say if you are still having that many attacks a week then obviously the buspar is not the right thing for you and won't be no matter how much the doctor keeps raising the dose. Some medicines just don't work for people. I am very sensitive to medications and my therapist tried me on several and none of them were helping with the anxiety and they were only making me sick. So she finally agreed with me to forgo trying any other medications so we will not be experimenting with that track anymore. I am on xanax xr 2mg a day because it is the only medicine that does not make me sick and it takes just the edge off of the symptoms. I found an awesome book- not sure if you have read it, having attacks for 10 years I am sure you have read everything, but so far it is doing wonders for me- it is Claire weekes book- Hope and Help for your nerves. I am having my family read it too and they are finally able to understand a little bit of what I am going thru and how to help me get thru it. If you have not read this book- GET IT!!!! It is very short and cheap- like 6 dollars! We all have to somehow figure out a way to just accept the anxiety and panic symptoms like we would arthritis and just let them float over us and go about our business and soon we will be so use to the symptoms that we won't even notice them anymore and then we won't even get them anymore. Or at least that is what I am hoping for. I have read that us anxiety prone people have such sensitized nerves that we really need to work on lots of relaxation things constantly so that our body is more relaxed so that when the symptoms come up we can more easily relax thru them and also if our body is more relaxed the less susceptible to the attacks we are. So I am doing lots of pilates, just started some meditation and am going to try massage or reiki once a month. We just have to get our nerves back down to normal range so that we are not so easily excitable and prone to the attacks. So just take some deep breaths, read the book, get some good relaxation music and keep reading all these wonderful post. I am pretty new to the board and so far everyone has just been wonderful!
Jennifer   (Thu May 4 21:23 2006)

Hi Shandell, I really sympathize with what you're going through. 10 years of panic attacks is so much for anyone to deal with. I just started hypnotherapy myself and while it seems too early to tell if it'll really help, I have hope. I agree with Jennifer that monthly massages (which I've just committed to getting myself!) and/or Reiki treatments are a great idea. Have you tried breathing exercises? I think many of them are posted on this site.

It does sound like the Buspar isn't the right thing for you...if you are interested in trying other medications, maybe you can consult a different doctor and/or poke around this site for info on other medication options. I wish you strength and am sending you hope.

Jennifer--great to hear about your activities. It sounds like you are being incredibly proactive about your own treatment and wellness. It's inspiring! And I agree that helping other people and getting involved in worthwhile causes is a wonderful way to help heal yourself as well.

It's funny, everyone I know with similar problems recommends Claire Weekes' book--I keep hearing it coming up again and again. It really is a helpful tool.

Love, Teresa   (Fri May 5 9:31 2006)

feeling lonely by Jennifer
Just feeling a little lonely right now and starting to get a little scared. So thought I would feel better if I could at least write out my feelings and I don't like journals so thought this was the best place to do it. I am reading Traveling Light by Max Lucado right now and i just finished a chapter that really hit home and should have made me feel better about being alone and feeling alone, but for some reason it didn't. So for all of you who are religious if you could just say a prayer for me right now to feel God's love and know that I am not alone because he is always there. Thanks!
Jennifer   (Fri May 5 23:28 2006)

To everyone by sillygal
I'm back from my vacation. I had a great time for the most part. There was one day i just couldn't get out of myself. i think i was depressed. it sucked because i had to cancel the movie trip with the grandkids until the next day, my anxiety was over the edge and the only way i can say it is, i guess i couldnt get my head out of my butt. but the next day was great. i did take my klonopin every day tho. and of course my buspar. on one night i woke up in the middle of the night and i was freaking out silently. i thought i had a night mare or something but i couldnt remember. i just know i was scared to death. I dont understand what these once in a while depressed states are all about. they come on only once in a while and hit me hard. its like being in a dark hole. or like i crawled up inside myself. i dont talk to anyone if i can help it, i'm just completely not myself. and at the same time anxiety is taking over. it's a very sad and lonely place to be. and it seems like as fast as it comes over me it also goes away. I feel awkward as if i were a thumb in a room full of fingers. I used to feel this way alot more before i started taking klonopin and maybe buspar.  

Jennifer, honey you are not alone and yes God is with you and he WILL protect you from whatever it is. any time you want to contact me you can i think all you have to do is click on my name (sillygal) and it will take you to my email address. you can also add me to yahoo instant messenger if you want and if you have it. i will respond if i know its you. hang in there. it will be ok. remember God never gives us what we cannot handle.
                 HUGS TO ALL!!!   (Sat May 6 1:40 2006)

Are you ok? I wrote you and didnt get an answer back. dont be a stranger ok? if you need anything, i'm here for you.   (Sun May 7 1:28 2006)

new picture by Jennifer
Okay some of you might not even have looked at the avon walk webpage yet where i had pictures posted, but i just changed the pictures to one picture, but it is of my whole family, so you can see me, my wonderful supportive husband, and my two beautiful daughters who are having to deal with a sick mommy right now! So if you haven't looked at the page, or even if you have- look again! And say a prayer for my husband and daughters that they continue to stay patient and supportive of me thru this rough time. Thanks. YOu can look at my post a few post down to see the website address. Thanks. LOL
Jennifer   (Sun May 7 15:00 2006)

Thats gonna be my moto for a while. " This too shall pass" My house is full of painters. everything in the house is everywhere. cant get to the bathroom or the kitchen. im stressed just thinking about the carpet people coming next. I was offered the lead position at work but i backed out at the last minute. The responsibilities are just too much for me. I can't make myself available 24hrs a day. I just want to go to work, do my job and come home . This constant anxiety is flippin making me sick. I drank a bunch of mylanta this morning, it worked. Sorry if i seem like i'm whining. i guess i am. and so what , i need to vent. like i said, this too shall pass.
HUGS to everyone!!!!!    (Fri May 19 15:00 2006)

Hey Cath...yes...I'm ok..left you a message on tagworld...thanks...glad you're back, hope you had a wonderful time.  Hey Jennifer...I love what you are doing, you have a beautiful family, and I'm sure they will be very supportive of you during this difficult time in your life.  I think the walk is awesome, exercise is a great way to deminish anxiety, so go for it girl...kudos to you...hang in there...you get used to everything in life, and after a while, being alone at night will seem like no big deal, but you have to go through the fear to the other side....   (Sun May 7 21:49 2006)

Okay I had my therapist appointment this morning and then this afternoon I had a message from her on the answering machine. She wants me to start taking magnesium supplements- she says it helps with anxiety. She told me to start out with 200 mg a day then if i tolerate it to go to 400 mg a day, because she said it could cause diarrhea. So anyways I just got thru looking up a whole bunch of information on magnesium and anxiety on the internet and it actually looks like it might work. What I am wondering is why she didn't tell me about this earlier. So I am going to be going out to get some magnesium supplements tomorrow and then will start them the next morning. So for all of you suffering from this crappy anxiety daily like I am(every night and every morning) take a look for yourself on the internet about magnesium and then maybe give it a try. Anything is worth a try right? And plus it is not a psycho drug, just a natural supplement so why not right? Hope everyone is doing well or at least attempting to do well like me, I sure know it is hard and I am glad you all are here. LOL

Jennifer   (Mon May 8 20:32 2006)

i just wanted to tell you what my Doctor said. she said that magnesium is good at an appropiate level. ask your Regular Doctor for a blood test to see if you are low on magnesium or if it would be ok to take this suppliment. I don't want to discourage you , but at the same time , too much magnesium can be harmful. remember shes a therapist, not a physician. My mother had a blood test and her magnesium level was very low, she was having anxiety and dizziness , that is a side effect of low magnesium. but he told her she would have to have lab work done periodically, because too much can cause problems with the heart. since you do alot of walking and excersise, it probably wont be a problem for you. good luck and let us know if it works.    (Mon May 8 23:32 2006)

to: sillygal by jennifer
Thanks so much for the information. I think I am going to call the regular doctor tomorrow and ask about it and see if he thinks it is okay to take. Thanks for caring!
Jennifer   (Tue May 9 0:04 2006)

Wish me Luck by Rosie
My dear friends...I'm having surgery on Thursday and will not be posting anything until probably Monday or so.  Wish me luck, I'm sure I'll be fine, but I am still a little nerveous.  I hope you guys keep me in your thoughts and prayers.  I will post as soon as I'm able to again.  Hope all of you feel better and keep the faith....I will talk to you guys soon!!!! Love...Rosie   (Tue May 9 10:34 2006)

to rosie by Jennifer
Rosie,
You are in my thoughts and prayers already. Whatever the surgery is for I pray for a quick and easy recovery. Thanks for all your help and thoughts here on the board. We will be thinking of you.
Jennifer   (Tue May 9 11:08 2006)

Good luck on your surgery. i hope whatever it is you are having done, benifits you. get well fast.  hugs
   (Tue May 9 14:11 2006)

Rosie, you're in our thoughts! Wishing you a speedy recovery.

Hope everyone is well here; sorry I haven't been around in a few days. It's been SO up and down lately.

Wishing you all love and peace, T.   (Tue May 9 17:52 2006)

sorry to hear you are having alot of ups and downs. when i get like that, i play around with my web page. it keeps my mind occupied and sometimes i find funny stuff to put on it. go there to my page if you want. i just put a couple videos on it. one is quite funny. no porn allowed.

www.tagworld.com/carolyn45


iv'e been wanting to put up a blog about anxiety and depression. but i think that might be a bit too personal, what do you think? someone on this forum along time ago told me that when my anxiety hits too accept it and it will go away faster rather than to fight it. i try to do that but its flippin hard man. then sometimes i get real down and i try to accept that aas well. for some reason that is more acceptable than the anxiety attacks.
someone told me that they wished they could just feel normal. what the heck is normal anyways?
I've decided to accept myself for the way i am. and for me, this is normal.
I wish you well. and i pray that GOD gives us all some peace of mind.

                 HUGS   (Tue May 9 21:38 2006)

peace by Jennifer
Okay today I am just asking everyone to say a little extra prayer for God to let us see and receive his peace. Last night was SOOOO hard. I had 3 major attacks back to back and finally had to give in and take an extra xanax for the first time in 2 weeks just so i could get some sleep. 3 in a row. I hadn't had that before. I am trying to be strong in my faith and know that God will take this away on HIS time, but during the middle of an attack that is so hard to do- I just want them gone and I am trying really hard to just accept them and float past them so that they will go away but so far it is not working, they are not going away and as my xanax is becoming less effective they are just getting stronger. So let's all just pray for some extra peace!
LOL
Jennifer   (Thu May 11 10:44 2006)

Jennifer, I have started praying too, when things get really bad mentally...I am not religious but am getting in touch with being more spiritual and trusting in the universe to provide me with what I need. So I will pray for you as well when I say my prayers tonight. Om shanti.

Sillygall, thanks for your kind words. I'll check out your page. I'm thinking that resuming my old hobby of crocheting is probably a good idea for when things get bad. I kinda flipped out at work yesterday and I have to take a few days off; got a note from my psych today and everything. Thank goodness my director has been extremely supportive of me (I work in social services and it's a pretty warm and fuzzy environment; I'm counting my blessings there).

I feel like I *know* when I feel "normal." I have a baseline that feels okay--and a state of being that DOESN'T feel okay at all. And that latter state scares the hell out of me.

Re: blogging, if you find it cathartic to blog about your anxiety, go for it! But if you have hesitations that it's too personal, what about just writing in a journal?

Okay, I better go. Love and peace to you all.
Teresa

p.s. Doc prescribed Wellbutrin today in addition to the Lexapro. I hate taking so many drugs but I feel like I have to try all my options. Am also taking Omega 3 supplements, which can apparently really help with emotional disorders.   (Thu May 11 17:03 2006)

fear by Betty
I have just started to take buspar. Two days. I am scared. ( I am a victim of an attack, little physical injury and enormous ....). I had been previously depressed and had anxiety,  but is there a way to escape it? I thought I had control over it, and I did, how many years it will take this time to go back to normality?  Can buspar be comined with anything else??

   (Fri May 12 11:18 2006)

I've just learned about you. went to my therapist today and he counselled me on
defending myself in social situations. i always am quiet or use self deprecating humor. i constantly worry about what other
people are thinking about me, so i try not
to interract much.  i am taking paxil and
that has helped, i just wish that i could control my thinking so that i could concentrate and that i could fall asleep and that i would stop worrying about things.
in my family, we have bipolar disorder and
anxiety disorders, depression and adhd, so we don't have good sources for advice. what do you think about paxil and buspar?   (Fri May 12 18:01 2006)

I went to the Psych. Doc. yesterday. He told me he thinks I am handling my anxiety disorder quite well. I told him everything i do. I told him that i'm still having a constant anxious feeling all the time. and especially when i dont take the klonopin. I told him that i lowered the dose of buspar from 45mg to 30 mg q day. He suggested that i add 7.5mg of buspar in the middle of the day, this way it wont give me a headache and make me dizzy. smaller doses spread out through the day might work better. He also said that the amount of klonopin i've been taking certainly will not harm me and getting addicted to it should not be a worry for me. He said that the benifits of taking it out weigh the risk. so if i need to, i can up my dose to .25mg twice a day. I will probably be more comfortable. and the less stress i have to deal with, the more healthier i will be.
He also told me he doesnt think i'm depressed. because even though my down periods are extreme, they only last for a few hours , at the most a day. if they are to get worse in severity or duration, i'm suppose to call him.
One of my fears is that i'm gonna have one of these depression episodes and it wont go away. I had a sister that had depression and one day it got the best of her. she was only 18 yrs old. I was 13 yrs old at the time.

Hello Susie and Betty, welcome to the forum. I hope this benifits you both. it certainly has for me.
          HUGS   (Sun May 14 3:29 2006)

Hey Rosie, I hope your surgery went well, i hope to hear from you soon. HUGS   (Sun May 14 3:33 2006)

Happy MOther's Day by jennifer
To all of you wonderful mother's out there dealing with this horrible sickness- I say Happy Mother's Day! I say what courage and strength we have to have to deal with what we deal with and still try to be there for our kids and be loving mothers. I know it is extremely hard for me! So let's all have a wonderful day filled with love and NO anxiety. My mother inlaw has been here for a few days so tonight I amgoing to be alone again so I am hoping for a good night. Sillygal I am so proud of you-since your doctor says you are doing good and Rosie hope to hear from you soon as well.
LOL
Jennifer   (Sun May 14 10:49 2006)

Happy Mother's Day guys....I'm back home and surgery went pretty well.  I'm still sore and have a pain in my left shoulder but the doctor says its pretty normal.  I did quite well mentally, considering my background.  I guess I was so focused on the surgery and what was happening that I didn't have time to focus on myself.  Does that make any sense?  Jennifer...don't give up on yourself, you will see this through and be a better person after it.  Carolyn, I'm so proud of you...you are one heck of a lady...TT..I can totally relate.  Thanks to all of you for your kind words and keeping me in your thoughts and prayers.  I wish all of you have a very happy mother's day today!   (Sun May 14 12:01 2006)

#24593 by Jennifer
Just wanted to tell everyone to have a good day. It is actually my wedding anniversary today so I am hoping the day goes well and no anxiety or at least no attacks- that would be a great anniversary present! LOL
Jennifer   (Tue May 16 10:51 2006)

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY!!!! Hope your day is full of PEACE!!!! GOD BLESS YOU BOTH!!
HUGS   (Tue May 16 14:41 2006)

Hi! How are you doing? Yes its good to have a supportive director at work. I have an important meeting with my boss on wednesday. My anxiety got the best of me and well, I kind of acted up at work. when I get real anxious my mouth gets going real fast and i get snippity. I guess thats what happen. I'm real nervous about the consequences of my actions. She is aware of my problems and shes been very considerate in the past but this is the first time I let it go this far. Doc says he thinks i got it together, but sometimes i know i dont. I am very good at acting as if.... most of the time. I hope everything is good with you.
HUGS   (Tue May 16 14:49 2006)

Thanks for your note, Sillygal. My wireless access has been shaky as of late so it's been hard to get online...I hope that it keeps on working like it's doing now. I'm sorry to hear about your work situation and hope that everything goes okay with your boss today. Keep us posted. I know exactly what you mean about being very good at acting as if everything's okay.

Happy anniversary, Jennifer!

Hope all of you moms had a lovely Mother's Day.

Wishing you peace,
Teresa   (Wed May 17 11:27 2006)

Got a written warning. phew! I,ve learned a few lessons. 1. I dont want friends that i work with. 2, don't trust anyone. 3. Keep my big mouth shut. I've had constant anxiety for the past week. My doc may think I've got it all together, but i know i dont. I have what they call "chronic anxiety" that can lead to panic attacks. I'm so sick of struggling with this. it's very exhausting. I think my klonopin has lost its effect. im already taking 1/2 mg most days. gotta go HUGS   (Wed May 17 15:42 2006)

I'm so sorry about the written warning, but thank goodness you still have the job, right? :) I know what you mean about struggling with constant anxiety and feeling sick of dealing with it. It's such a strain, but I hope that knowing others out there understand and feel the same way brings you at least some sense of comfort. We are all rooting for you and we want you to feel better. Take care of yourself. Big hugs, Teresa   (Thu May 18 17:13 2006)

#24672 by Jennifer
Amen to the struggling with constant anxiety and feeling SICK of dealing with it! Some days are so much easier than others and it just doesn't make sense, if one day is okay- then they should all be okay. I have actually had a pretty good week (but have kept myself extremely busy which is bad because that involves spending a lot of money) I did a lot of shopping- which some of it needed to be done and then of course did they spring planting, lots of flowers and we bought two more trees and planted them so I have been very busy which keeps my mind off of other things. But then we I am stuck at home is when it gets hard. So how can you go out without spending a lot of money. Anyways my hubby is back at work tonight, but i had a friend(the one friend who has not disowned me since my anxiety problem came about) come and visit with her new baby for two hours so that helped pass a lot of time. It really hurts that my other friends(or those that I thought were my friends) have basically started ignoring me now because of this- I don't know if they think I am so crazy lunatic now or what, but they haven't even seen me for 3 months so they don't realize that I am still me and I actually have no anxiety problems when I am around people and friends so I won't go crazy on them. My anxiety and panic attacks come when I am alone or when going over bridges, etc. I guess you really find out who your friends are when you become sick, it is just sad because it is at these times when you need your friends. Thank goodness there is GOd I guess and I thank God for you all, you all give me hope and support. LOL
Jennifer   (Thu May 18 21:51 2006)

I hope that you are alright. Havent heard from you in a long time. Please drop us/me a line when you can. luv you and missing you.
HUGS
Carolyn   (Wed May 24 15:16 2006)

Jennifer by Rosie
Jennifer, you are scared of being scared, its as simple as that, somebody great said there is nothing to fear but fear itself, and boy was he right, you are right, whatever cause your initial anxiety, is probably not causing it now, you are now scared of the anxiety itself and the symptoms it brings.  Yes, I have been there, many times and still am to some point so I can difinetely relate to you.  Unfortunately, there's only one way out, and its through the fear, letting it come and watching it go, and letting it happen enough times that you know you will be fine and nothing will happen to you.  I know its not easy Jennifer, but its not impossible.  I know what you are going through, and I feel for you because I know how devastating it can be, but you can do it and you will be a better and stronger person because of it.  Take small steps and face your fears, if its driving over a bridge, brake it down, first be a passenger, do it enough times that you are comfortable as a passenger, then as a driver with someone supportive next to you, again, do it enough times that you do it without anxiety, and eventually on your own.  I know how difficult it is, but its the only way to cure this horrible thing that plagues us.  Best of luck to you girl....   (Wed May 24 16:23 2006)

rosie by jennifer
wow, Rosie you are always so positive and that really helps. I am having more good days lately than bad, but of course like I said earlier I have been keeping very busy. And my husband was just home for 3 days in a row and his parents are coming into town tomorrow night for a few days. So i have company for a little while- that always helps. I am still taking xanax xr every day and then just very occassionaly i have to take an extra half or whole xanax tablet on top of that, but i really try not to take any extra and to just let the anxiety symptoms come when they do, but if they get too overwhelming i have to take the extra. Hey, i get my monthly massage next wednesday so i am so excited about that! LOL and thanks Rosie for staying so positive, I know there is hope and the end of this struggle!
Jennifer   (Wed May 24 19:10 2006)

hiya by TT
hey all, just checking in and saying hi. hoping this finds you in reasonably good spirits! it's been a very up and down few days for me but i think i'm finally starting to really recover from this bad 2-month episode. i am back at work and easing into my regular routine slowly. thank goodness i work with an exceptionally compassionate bunch of people (in the social services field) and an understanding supervisor.

i'm also pursuing something totally different in terms of treatment: i had food intolerances tested by a naturopath, who determined that i am intolerant to fruit and to a combination of grains and dairy (but i avoid dairy anyway so that part's easy--staying away from all forms of fruit is going to be extremely challenging!) i will try avoiding all fruit for 2 weeks and see if that helps; he reported great success with other clients who tested positive for fruit intolerance and had emotional/mental symptoms. i'm keeping my fingers crossed that this could be a major step in my recovery, maybe kind of a "missing link." after all, god knows that years of medication and therapy haven't done the trick...

argh, i wish olive oil didn't count as a fruit! ;) and almonds, too.

may we all feel peace and be able to appreciate our blessings.

hugs, teresa   (Fri May 26 22:15 2006)

I'm finding myself thinking about looking for another job. My problem is that i feel no one really likes me and just as soon as they can come up with a good reason to fire me they will. My mom thinks i'm reading too much into things. maybe i am paranoid, i dont know. I started scratching my arm today. pretty hard. I wanted it to hurt. its a mess now. I think my skin is prematurely thinning. I'm scared . I dont want to be a "cutter" I had a friend once that was one and it just kept getting worse. i have no idea if she is even still alive. I'm up to 3/4 of a mg of klonopin a day. What do they do for someone like me. I definitely dont want to be on any ssris . i'm gonna look up some stuff on the internet . I hope someone out there can relate to me.  anyways, hugs to you all. gnite
carolyn   (Sat May 27 2:35 2006)

#25139 by Rosie
Wow, TT, that's excellent news, I'm glad you've gone back to work, sometimes keeping our minds occopied is the best therapy in the world.  I would be interested in seeing if your food changes make a difference in how you feel, that would really be something.  Good for you girl....you sound so much more optimistic.  As for you, Miss Carolyn, yes, I think you are being paranoid, weren't you the one that was recently offered a promotion and turned it down???? Carolyn, I'm no doctor, but if you are thinking of hurting yourself, you sound very depressed to me, I know you hate SSRIs, but Klonopin is not an antidepressent, its only an anti-anxiety.  There are many other anti-depressent medications that are not SSRIs (Wellbutrin for one), I really think you need to talk to your doctor about these thoughts you are having and have him suggest a different course of treatment.  Much love to you all!  Rosie   (Sun May 28 16:42 2006)

Yea Rosie, I know. I'm just having a hard time right now. just trying to pull myself out of this. whatever the heck it is. i keep putting up stop signs in my mind but i think im just getting really tired of it all. this is the only place i can accually say whats really going on with me. when i get to the doc of course those feelings are gone. I went to church today. i even took all my clients. they loved it. i thought it would help maybe it did in a way. im still here.  hugs to you all. gnite
Carolyn   (Mon May 29 1:57 2006)

Oh my! Anyone experience weight gain from either of these meds?  Today I am honest with my weight to myself and my husband!  Feels much better acknowledging who I am today instead of living in the 'self from the past'.  The way I use to be, I was always high on alcohol or something else.  I thought that was the way to cure my anxiety and discomfort of whatever, whenever.  Of course, it was very difficult to keep the same job for very long.  I think I am able to discern and make more responsible choices now.  Sillygal, I know about thinking of wanting to change jobs, again and again!  I use an exercise of making choices by listing points on paper. Try to be nice to yourself as you decide where you want to work.  If you like yourself, others will also.  Simple.  I try to stay focused on my task at hand (my job that pays my salary) and really attempt to not involve myself in the office click.  I hope a little of what I wrote helps some!  My Psychiatrist only hears me for about 11 minutes and then determines when I need to be seen again.  I try to tell him what is happening in my life and if I tell too much, he wants to put me on another 'CURE' med.  Ha... Have a good night.   (Mon May 29 22:29 2006)

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Have not written for a little while. Feel need to write now.  Getting really discouraged.  Been taking the Buspar now for quite some time, and am not feeling or sensing any relief from it.  Don't know if it does ANYTHING.  Have tried Klonopin and then yes, I get some relief from the anxiety.  But don't want to keep taking the Klonopin, so stopped that a week or so ago.  Now feeling desperate.  Feeling down on the one side and feeling anxiety on the other side.  Like my head is all numb and my body keeps turning around inside. It's like being hit twice.  Cannot get anything done.  So difficult to start something.  Anything.  Even doing the mail is a chore.  Feels so . . . . .  can't find a word for it.
Lexapro.......Buspar........Klonopin.......
Don't know anymore.   (Wed May 31 5:52 2006)

wow, it seems a lot of people are afraid of klonopin. I know its addictive but i was told at low dosages, it is ok. why are you torturing yourself? if klonopin works then why not take it while you and your doc decide on what else to do? now i know im the one that wont try anything else because of the side effects, but can you blame me? no one i hear from has had a good from the start response from them. they all seem to have to go thru an adjustment period that sounds like hell to me. I simply dont have that time away from work. klonopin is easy to quit at a low dose, so im told. i was letting myself go without and going thru hell. anxiety was crazy and my therapist ask me why i was torturing myself. she said if i need it, take it. i thought about asking my doc about lexapro while still taking klonopin to ease off the adjustment period, but im not so sure now. my buspar seems to be working some for me. hugs to you. hope you feel better soon.   (Wed May 31 11:11 2006)

VARIOUS by Rosie
Roger, I agree with Carolyn, if Klonopin makes you feel better, don't suffer...take it, I take it only at night and sometimes not at all, but if I need it, I take it.  Penny, yes, Lexapro made me gain lots of weight, as a matter of fact, I just had lap band surgery 3 weeks ago for exactly that reason, still recuperating but was tired of the weight gain.  Carolyn, I'm worried about you girl....really worried...don't you go and do anything crazy...why don't you write to me at TAGWORLD?.  I know when this is happening to us, we feel that this is the end of the world, but its not, and so many of us have this same disease, we are not alone, while you are having a panic attack, there are thousands of people out there having one too.  Just to put things in perspective, my sister works for Miami Children's Hospital in the oncology department, everytime she comes home with a story about a new little kid with cancer and how devastated their parents are, I think of how lucky I am to have two healthy children and how in comparison to other people's suffering, mine is minor, even if it doesn't feel like it.  If anyone feels like chatting or just venting, my website is http://www.tagworld.com/ROSIE42/World/MyWeb.aspx.& guys are not alone in this...we are all in this together...Love...Rosie   (Wed May 31 20:01 2006)

thanks but dont worry about me. I'm just basically at the end of my rope. I do have a knot to hang on to. I think its a knot it could be an illusion. who knows. i'm real down today. i dont know maybe the klonopin is making me down. but without it, im flying off the handle. I'm not feeling well today, my throat hurts and for some reason they want me to find my own replacement for work. the heck with it , i guess i have to go in anyways. I dont understand the way i feel. i dont understand why. but this may sound crazy, but i do understand physical pain.
hugs----Carolyn
   (Thu Jun 1 14:37 2006)

My concern is that I get back in a similar situation as I was in the past where I used Xanax.  Over time I had to take more and more of the stuff for it to work and I had a real hard time getting of it.  And I do not want that to happen with Klonopin.  Maybe Klonopin is not as addicttive as Xanax, but I am careful.   (Thu Jun 1 14:40 2006)

Today i had to call off of work. I think im losing the struggle. i had another down time. this one was bad. i couldnt stop crying, i wanted to hurt myself. i just couldnt pull my head out of my butt. i went to the crisis center at kaiser. i think it helped . she helped me by letting me vent and cry and cry and cry. I just realized something today. ever since i quit using drugs and partying, about 8 to 10 years ago, i havent had a true friend, besides my fiance who is now dead. my life consist of work and my mom. oh yea and this computer. I'm sorry, im really feeling sorry for myself. anyways, sorry im so engulfed in my own hangups i cant even offer advice for any one. just venting again, still here's a hug to all of you. later-------------carolyn   (Thu Jun 1 23:38 2006)

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Carolyn, we are here for you, babe...so sorry to hear of your struggle. I know, it hurts like hell. My own head is up my butt too, I've been on a total rollercoaster, so I know where you're coming from. I am glad you had a chance to vent and cry, that is probably something you really needed to do. This will pass. I know it feels like it won't, but it will. We will all heal, we'll find the right combination of medications and lifestyle adjustments and therapies.

Not such a great week here either. I saw my psych last night, fell apart in his office-- and he suspects perhaps some bipolar symptoms. So I'm now starting Lamictal in addition to the Lexapro and occasional Valium; the Wellbutrin did nothing but make me jittery so I stopped that a couple weeks ago. I hate being on meds at all but I know this is what I have to do for right now...I am trying everything: meds, talk therapy, affirmations, spirituality (nondenominational), nutrition. I used to be a cutter and have struggled with disordered eating and those issues are coming up for me again. I'm not actively cutting but keep thinking about it, and I'm bingeing and purging a little bit...I don't want to do this to myself. I am going to try to love myself instead of being violent to myself.

I hope that you are all surviving. Wishing you love and peace...TT   (Fri Jun 2 23:58 2006)

I'm sorry. for what i'm not quite sure but I probably said something wrong. This is probably why i have no friends. its ok. thanks for all your help. I wish you the best. hugs
Carolyn   (Sat Jun 3 2:04 2006)

Hey all. wannna feel better about yourself? go to Eharmany ,and fill out the questionare about yourself. it takes a while. but it makes you see yourself for who you are and then makes you see yourself for who REALLY are. its a christain based singles connection. its free to just fill out the questionare but i think it cost to accually continue. i saved mine cause who knows i just might finish it later. this was suggested to me by my crisis worker. hugs to all!!
I'm feeling much better today.
If your married, do it anyways if your partner doesnt mind, its not like your gonna go anywhere with it.
Thanks TT i almost forgot "this too shall  pass" and i know there is a solution right around the corner.
Roger, hang in there hon. and yes, be careful.
I think this is a lesson. that God is giving us. we just havent quite figured out what he wants us to learn. once we learn it, it will go away. thats my theory.
HUGS to all, thanks for being there for me and i am always here for all of you.
hugs
Carolyn   (Sat Jun 3 14:41 2006)

Am having a hard time "hanging in there".  It is like my mind is going crazy.Am taking my Lexapro, and am taking the Buspar, and (when feeling really anxious) am taking 5mg of Klonopin.  But my mind still goes its own was.  Starting to feel panicky about it.  Like its is impossible to get control back.     (Mon Jun 5 10:17 2006)

glideman by roger
roger,how long have you been on lexapro? buspar did nothing for me exept make me dizzy.so your frustration is justified.the research ive done on buspar,says that it only works for about 20% of those who take it.it is a GODsend for those 20%,but for the rest of us it is another frustration.i too suffer from G.A.D. & SEVERE depression.what has worked for me in the past,real well was 10 mg celexa with 1/2 mg klonipin two times daily.that worked excellant for 5 years.then it was 10 mg lexapro with 1/2 mg lorazepam 2 times a day, this worked well for over 3 years.everyone is different & reacts differently to meds,but it usually took about 2 months on the lexapro or celexa to really start to feel somewhat normalized & anxiety free.if you havent been on the lexapro for at least 2 months dont get discouraged,keep taking it.if you have been on it for more than 2 months ,it may be time to up the dose or try a different med.maybe its sister drug celexa? the transition should be pretty simple. look i dont have all the answers,but what i do know is eventually you will find a med that works,that is a certainty.this imformation i have given is from years of research & the fact ive had this terrible illness for about 18 years,& i have found releif from the anxiety & depression for about 17 of those years.whenever you go around to these forums,all you here is horror stories about meds.i just wanted you to hear from someone whos life has been been changed & made liveable by these same meds,others hate so much.yes they can be terrible during the first month especially with the anxiety part,but one month is a small price to pay for years of normalcy.

also as far as the klonipin goes,i was on 1/2 2 times a day for 3 years,never had to up dose to get relief,went off of the drug over 2 weeks with no withdrawl symptoms at all.

with all my extensive research there is another option for you to talk over with your doc to supplement with your klonipin.my mother is a doctor,& she had researched this med,that has been used for years for anxiety.its called inderal. its a beta blocker that is effacious at helping with the physical symptoms of anxiety. rec dosage is 10 mg 3 times a day. im going through a hard time myself right now,getting adjusted to a new med,the lorazepam & inderal has decreased the anxiety almost 90%,for real.

well enough of my rambling,just wanted to give this forum & roger something to think about. bye all.         (Mon Jun 5 13:57 2006)

roger by glideman
sorry had to write again,to let roger know the pevious post was for him from gideman,not to me from roger.sorry.     (Mon Jun 5 14:02 2006)

Glideman,  I have been taing Lexapro now for a couple of years.  Early Last year started slowly taking less of the Lexapro, at some point had it down to 5mg.  But the last 6-9 months have been tough and now I am back to 20mg on advise of my doctor.  Like I said in a previous note I used Xanax in the past, and it worked well, but I have become very careful with Xanax because of just that fact that it works well, and because of having to increase the dose to keep having the effect from it.  In short, I am trying to stay away from Xanax.
The Klonopin works well, the only thing is that I get a very "dull" feeling in my head from it.
All these medicines, it's tiring me.  You have to take so many things into consideration.
All I want is the anxiety to stop, because sometimes it is just too much.
   (Mon Jun 5 15:20 2006)

Wow, 5mg klonopin? i think if i took that much i would surely pass out. i agree with the dull feeling in the head tho. even on 1/4mg i feel that. I think if I could just get the anxiety under control, i believe my depression would go away. Sometimes i do wonder if im bi polar. because when i dont take my klonopin at least twice a day, im extremely hyper and real tense . wanting to control everything and stressing out over everything. and ive noticed lately when i dont take it i want to do things compulsively and i cant sleep without the help of flexeral. and i tend to ramble on and on like i feel im doing now. its time for my next dose. its either upity and deeply intense or very sad and down. im going to talk to my doc about this. but yes im scared . but if i ever want to be balanced i think i need to try new things. well, hugs to you. I dont do alot of research cause with my anxiety it would just scare me. I can only share from my heart and my experiences. take care
Carolyn   (Mon Jun 5 18:17 2006)

sorry i think i misunderstood about the 5 mg klonopin i read it wrong. anyways hope you have a good night. hugs to all
carolyn   (Tue Jun 6 1:01 2006)

Hope you gals are all doing ok. keep in touch. hugs
carolyn   (Tue Jun 6 1:06 2006)

Just to make sure: am using 20 mg of Lexapro and 0.25mg of Klonopin (1/2 a tablet of 0.5 mg).
Not 5 mg of Klonopin, you could probably carry me away while I was floating.   (Tue Jun 6 5:14 2006)

This is my first time posting here, just found this site. I've only developed panic disorder symptoms in the last 3 months, and am going through hell. Can't find a psych so I'm being medicated by my GP. She's tried me on Celexa and Zoloft, horrible side effects with both, wound up in the ER twice. Can't take Welbutrin because I used to be bulimic. She won't let me take Xanax/Valium/etc. because it's habit-forming. Now I'm on Buspar and it does nothing but make me dizzy and gain weight (which is doing wonders for my eating disorder). This is hell on earth, and I have no idea why it's happening. Relationship, work, home, it's all falling apart and nothing seems to be working to stop it. And has anyone else had trouble with alcohol during times like this? It seems like the first thing I reach for when I'm panicking because there's nothing else and I get so frantic, but it just makes things worse.

Anyway, sorry for the ramble. I'm new here and I'm really scared. Reading your posts, you all sounded really nice. Thought you might not mind a newbie butting in.   (Tue Jun 6 12:34 2006)

to Tiff by Jennifer
First of all welcome, i definitely do not mind newbies because it helps me even more to see that other people are going thru what I am going thru. I had to go thru a lot of medications to find one that worked for me, i had horrible side effects with most of them so finally my therapist is letting my have xanax xr 2mg daily. Here is what i say, yes there is a chance of xanax being habit forming but if you are able to control your symptoms on just a low dose it is not that habit forming and if I had to choose between going thru the hell of anxiety and panic attacks or on being on a medication that Might be habit forming for me, I would so choose the medication!!!! So I say find a different doctor who will let you have the xanax or the klonopin that the others talk about. Because you have no chance of getting better until you get at least a little bit of relief so even being on the xanax for just a few weeks which won't be habit forming can get you calmed down enough where you can try to deal with your anxiety in other ways which is what I am doing thru meditation, exercise, and growing in my spiritual faith and just education myself on this anxiety and that it might feel like i am having a heart attack or dying but that the attacks really cannot harm me, that has been the most helpful information for me. But I will not even start my day out until I take my xanax and my doctor is not worried about it because she has seen how much it has helped me and how much the other medications worsened me. Hope this helps and again welcome!
Jennifer   (Tue Jun 6 14:56 2006)

Welcome, I take klonopin 1/4 mg twice a day and sometimes 3 times a day. its such a low dose and my doc reasures me it wont hurt me. Jennifer is right , you need some kind of relief to deal with this. i know alchohol sometimes can be an instant releif, but it can also be fatal with some medications. be careful. ive been drinking mikes hard limonade sometimes at night but only 1 drink and only if i havent been taking alot of klonopin. im probably not suppose to do that but thats what it is. I also take buspar, 45 mg a day i take 15mg in the am and 30mg before bed. at first it made me feel dizzy and gave me a headache, so i cut down to 30mg. then gradually went back up. i have no side effects from it now. and i think it is helping my anxiety. i wont stop it to find out. if you read my past post you will see ive been on a rollorcoaster ride lately. but for the most part im ok. most of the time i think im doing just fine. give the buspar time, maybe you can be one of the 20% of people that it helps. group therepy also helps. it helps to realize that others have the exact same going on in their lives. and there are lots of ways to deal with it. just remember, "this too shall pass" and you WILL be ok. we are all here for you.
HUGS
Carolyn   (Tue Jun 6 15:58 2006)

I want to thank you both for what you've said. Things have been so terrible lately, and I really haven't had anyone to talk to. I've even freaked out the psychologist I've been seeing with my attacks. I've been desperate to talk to and hear from others who have gone through this, if only just to know that I'm not the only one. So thank you so much for your kind words. You made me feel a lot better today, and I really needed that.   (Tue Jun 6 22:34 2006)

anytime you want to talk i'm here just click on my name and it will give you my email address.    (Wed Jun 7 0:21 2006)

It is so wonderful to read how you all can put your feelings in words.  Am struggling to get my feelings properly worded in here.  Wished I could do the same.
All I seem to be able to say is that I feel very down and anxious at the same time and that I find it very difficult to get anything done.  And when I read these words again they sound so weak and stupid.  How can I even write these things about myself? "Down", "Anxious", Weak", "Stupid"?  Are these words that I would use to describe myself?  No, but at the same time I have just written them down.  
I feel down!   And have not been able to shake it of.  It is all taking too long.  Don't know how much longer I can take this.   And the anxiety!  Is just like my inside is turning and turning.
Help!     (Wed Jun 7 7:30 2006)

I'm so sorry. I know what your talking about. sometimes i get the same way. i'm scared that i too wont be able to shake it off. you word things just fine. you are not stupid. How long have you been on the lexapro? man i have heard the same story from alot of people. hang in there , it will pass. it takes time. Talk to glideman, seriously, he knows exactly what you are going thru. hugs babe
carolyn   (Wed Jun 7 11:08 2006)

roger by glideman
roger,hang in there,i dont know how long youve been back on the lexapro at 20mg,but it usually takes about 2 to 4 weeks at the new dose to help,if its going to help.ask your doctor about the inderal,for real,honestly it works great on the physical
symptoms of anxiety.it is a relatively benign drug with no side effect profile,at all.what it does is stop all adrenaline effects on your body,it will honestly be a miracle in conjunction with the klonipin.between the 2 you will have decreased anxiety by at least 90%.this will make you comfortable enough to wait the the added anxiety side effect of the lexapro.
look,i know you dont know me,so i say go online & research google "inderal for anxiety" remedy find rates this drug a 8.8 & klonipin rates a 8.7 for anxiety.it has the highest rating for any drug for anxiety,even better than the benzos.it has no addiction potential,no side effects,& its an old drug used for many things.statistics say 1/8 of this country is on this drug,some for headaches,some for high blood pressure,some for heart palpitations,or high blood pressure.
i can sympathize with more so than you know.i have been on 3 different anti depressants in the last 8 months,with no help with the terrible anxiety & depression that came back in september of 2005.i have lost over 100 lbs,from the non hunger the extreme anxiety has brought. i too like you was not able to think or get anything done,i even had to go on leave of absense from my job,that i have had for 8 years.couldnt concentrate or even function. i too didnt know how long i could take it,whether it would be easier to just end it all.but you know what? i have allways found the strength to hold out one more day & then one more day. now its been 10 months of just one more day.im now on a new med,going through the same thing your going through.its been 6 weeks on this new med & i am just now barely feeling any benefits from it.the lifesaver has been the 1/2 mg lorazepam & 10mg inderal twice daily.it is & will be a long road to recovery,but i know you too will seem to find the strength to carry on.just take it one day at a time. dont look forward & dont look back,just deal with today.
soory for the long post,just thought i could help.       (Wed Jun 7 12:31 2006)

to all by glideman
if my posts have helped anyone else,please let me know.it makes me feel better about my situation,if i know i am helping someone else through this.also if any of you have any questions,please feel free to ask. i am not a doctor,but i am well educated on this subject,by both experience of 18 years & lots & lots of research for years.my whole family has a medical background,& has been very supportive with love & lots of research imformation. thanks all,GOD bless.        (Wed Jun 7 12:39 2006)

Glideman, just looked at Inderal and Anxiety and am amazed to see the many reactions.  Will definitely look more into it.  May even try it since I still have some from a long time ago when I needed it together with Lipitor for high cholesterol effets.  My cholesterol is fine now.  So will look at the "good-until" date of the Inderal and maybe try it immediately.
Thanks!   (Wed Jun 7 13:11 2006)

REad more on Inderal.  It even mentions anxiety in the documentation that comes with the Inderal.  What I have here is "Hlaf-Inderal", 80mg long acting capsules.  The documentation mentions that 80mg is the recommended dose for anxiety.
One thing I do not know about and so far have not been abel to find anything on is the combination of Buspar and Inderal.  What do they do to each other?
Any thoughts or experience on that, Glideman?   (Wed Jun 7 13:20 2006)

Your the best! You've also helped me alot and you are a success story in the making.
hugs
carolyn   (Wed Jun 7 15:20 2006)

roger by glideman
once again roger,im no doctor,however ive have found wallgreens pharmasists to be very helpfull in that aspect.call your nearest wallgreens & ask to speak to the pharmasist. tell him your doctor has reccommended inderal for anxiety,but you allready take buspar,klonipin,ask if there are any drug interactions between the 3 drugs & lexapro. trust me he will tell you,the truth,thats his job.as far as the dose,from what ive gathered imformation wise,if your on a benzo they reccommend 10mg 3 to 4 times daily, up to 80mg max.also this is something to talk to your doctor or pharmasist about.hope this is helpfull.wasnt what you found out about inderal amazing? funny ive suffered for 18 years & noone has ever even mentioned it before,untill my doc mom & i did alot of research on non addictive releif for anxiety.well any other questions please feel free to e-mail me,please anyone.i have opened an e-mail account just for these forums. harleystud05@msn.com once we talk i will give you my real e-mail adress.sorry for the inconvenience,but need to be able to weed out undesireables,who just want to cause problems.      (Wed Jun 7 15:45 2006)

roger by glideman
also one other thing,i dont know what med you have,it sounds like some type of inderal.however the med i researched is regular inderal,generic is propranolol.

bye,& GODbless to all   (Wed Jun 7 15:49 2006)

Inderal LA (Half Inderal) is a longer lasting form of Propanolol.   (Thu Jun 8 10:17 2006)

Is inderal more potent than klonopin? or is it more mild and just not addictive?   (Thu Jun 8 13:04 2006)

Inderal is a beta-blocker, not one of the benzo-diazepam related drugs.  So it is not a tranquilizer as Xanax, Klonopin, Valium, etc.   In the papre that comes with Inderal it reads that a 80mg dose once a day is recommended for anxiety.   (Thu Jun 8 13:06 2006)

Oops!  Benzodizepine, not benzo-diazepam.   (Thu Jun 8 14:03 2006)

Thanks babe, I'll look it up later. read more about it. hugs
carolyn   (Thu Jun 8 15:41 2006)

GAD by JESSIE GAL
Hi to whoever is there... i have been suffering from anxiety and panic attacks and was recently diagnosed with gad. a psych md prescribed me effexor but i am reluctant to take it because of all the horrible things i hear and the horrible withdrawl symptoms. i had previously been put on buspar but had only begun taking it for a week when the md gave me efexor. i want to know if anyone has had effective results w/buspar for anxiety. does prozac or lexapro work for gad??   (Fri Jun 9 15:26 2006)

jessie girl by glideman
i have taken both effexor xr & lexapro. i was on 10mg lexapro for 5 years,it was a very excellent drug,for me anyway.i worked real well for the anxiety & depression.i too have GAD which results in me getting really depressed.effexor xr also worked real well for me for over ayear.of all the antidepressants ive been on it had the least side effcts.i was on 37.5 mg.i quit the drug over a months time,with no real problems.it also worked the fastest for me.i really liked the drug,& wish it would have kept working.the best overall drug for me has been celexa 10 mg,it caused increased anxiety for about 2 weeks then was great for about 3 years untill my psyc doc changed it to lexapro. i hope this helps.i did not find any releif from buspar & cant say that i know any one who has either.well if you have any further questions you can e-mail me at the e-mail adress in my previous posts.roger i hope your doing well.love & GOD bless all who suffer.      (Fri Jun 9 21:17 2006)

This has been one heck of a weekend. I ended up in emergency room because i was feeling faint and nausea. well it seems i have a kidney infection and extreme high blood pressure 156/103. the doc says he hears arrythmias. so now im on atenolol and cipro. i'm so flippin happy that i did not know my heart was acting like that before i went to doc , cause my anxiety would sure have gone overboard. Anxiety is real high right now anyways. By the way I found my sons girlfriend, she had a beautiful baby girl, 8lbs 1oz. big baby. i posted her picture on my web page. please go see her. I'm a very proud grandma of 7 now. geez i'm way too young to have so many grandbabies. but its cool. the web page is:
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Dear All,  

How can I get rest in my head?  The way this is going I am feeling that I am going crazy.  On advise of my Psychologist I have stopped taking Buspar, and have moved over to Inderal.  She (psychologist) says that by now, 6 weeks after starting Buspar, it should have worked and I should have felt relief from it.  But no, did not feel a thing.   So she recommended the Inderal, after having read the post from Glideman.  
But now my mind is going crazy.  Constantly turning in my head.  Very difficult to make decisions.   A lot of wasted time.  A lot of empty time.
Am worring about everything.   (Mon Jun 12 6:52 2006)

anxiety by sassy
I have been on somany drugs to help this problem... but, they have all had side affects. I am taking Ativan as needed. I was doing real good, but now the last two days Ihave needed it twice a day instead of once at night. The Dr. wants to try Buspar and I am not sure what the other one is. Help!!!I am spinning out of control. How do we get off of this roller coaster, I fell like I am totaly losing it! I am so anxious and worried that there is something very wrong with me and my real DR. things I am just nuts, I can tell in her voice! My insurance does not cover any therapy so how do we get this anxiety to go away? Please Help! And GOD BLESS ALL whom feel like this!   (Mon Jun 12 9:51 2006)

it is so ironic how many of us there are. if i knew how to get off this ride i surely would and im sure alot of us would. i'm just happy that for the most part, ive have found a combination of drugs that work to small degree.i go into the rollercoaster at times and just want to slit my wrist cause its too much for me to handle. as most of you know i'm on klonopin every day now and the dose is higher last few days. and also on 45mg buspar. my doc is looking into something else i can take for the depression thats going along with this anxiety, but he needs to do some research, as my records show. im highly sensitive to alot of sri's and allergic to the rest. or just cant take them with the other "breathing meds" im on. The side effects that others talk about from antidepressants, are true for me too, but so much more intense that i can not talk through them or function as a normal person. even after 2 or three months. writing is what helps me and being able to talk to others with the same problem helps. i also go to therapy and groups (live). well im gonna be late for group if i dont leave now, so hugs to all
carolyn   (Mon Jun 12 12:51 2006)

I can't understand it. ive fallen into the hole again. this time the hole doesnt look so deep its just slippery and hard to get out. everything ive ever stuffed way down deep is all crawling back up. I cant eat hardly at all. my mom makes me. i want to throw it back up but i cry when i throw up. i cry no matter what so what the heck right?
My chest hurts but its probably just anxiety. I'm so tired of this. some how i'm gonna make it go away. I think my rollercoaster crashed.    (Tue Jun 13 1:37 2006)

Hey Carolyn,
So now we are together "in the hole".  We are there to listen and help you.  Have you changed anything in your medication?  Your chest hurting is probably the anxiety.  Have you and your doctor looked at the combination of medicines you are taking to see if there are any unwanted side-effects?  

Hang in there?
Roger   (Tue Jun 13 9:00 2006)

well heres the list of meds i'm on right at this moment.........
Atenolol
lisinopril
klonopin
buspar
cipro
omeprazole
vytorin
qvar
serevent
albuteral
flexeral
the only thing new is cipro and atenolol. there are unwanted side effects to about every med i take. but doc says i cant quit taking any. they tried to take me off atenolol about two months ago and my heart started having arrythmias again. the flexeral is just occasionally because some of the other meds cause cramping. funny huh? they give me more meds to take care of the side effects for others. I feel like a walking chemical reaction sometimes.
so how long have you been in the hole? does it go away or seem to get better now and then? or is it constant? I'm referring to "the hole" as a depressed state of mind. my anxiety is constant sometimes its not so intense. but most of the time lately its intense. my depression seems to come and go i think. the doc says its probably constant but i just fall deeper on occasion. he thinks its a combination of things. my anxiety due to post traumatic stress. which is the combination of things. well thanks for the feed back. hugs to you babe
Carolyn   (Tue Jun 13 12:08 2006)

did you know there is a forum just like this one but for klonopin for anxiety?   (Tue Jun 13 15:57 2006)

buspar by karen
I am recent user now of buspar. Yes Ive been dizzy but Im open minded for this. I have panic attacks mostly in traffic sometimes in crowds. Has gotten worse over last few years Im now 42. I have tried several kinds of medicines paxil, prozac, zoloft, elexa, clonapine.. to no avail. My side affects for these medicines Id rather keep my panic. So wish me luck and say a prayer for me.   (Wed Jun 14 20:49 2006)

Well the xanax xr 2mg daily was working well for awhile and i thought i was getting better but the last week and a half has been hell, I still do pretty well when i have company but for some reason i can't get anyone to move in with me 24-7 so i won't be alone when myhusband goes to work. so anyways the doctor is calling out seroquel for me and i have to start taking it sunday night. i am so very sensitive to medications so of course the thought of taking something new again is making me more anxious. has anyone else every tried this medication or know of anyone on it. Any help would be great- thanks. I always knew the xanax would become less effective and I did not want to have to keep increasing the dosage, but just scared of any other medication because of all the bad reactions i have had to the others i have tried. LOL
Jennifer   (Thu Jun 15 0:52 2006)

gad by panic girl
ive had real bad panic attacks and was put on klonipin i havent had a bad panic attack since  however now they are saying im bipolar and want me to start something else..saying my panic is called being manic...who knows!   (Sun Jun 18 21:28 2006)

How old are you? if your not happy with your diagnoses then take care of yourself and get a second opinion. i thought i was having bi polar episodes too but now i think im having perimenopause. dont let them play guinea pig with you. meds are nothing to mess with unless you really need them.
hugs
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Hi panic girl, sillygal and all others...  I have been diagnosed BiPolar by two physicians.  To the point of a life insurance company denying coverage for me (?!) I just turned 39 yrs old.   I asked my Psychiatrist if I was near my deathbed or something and he only confirmed my BiPolar diagnosis.  I don't get it.  Apart from my binge drinking every several months or so, I am in great health.  And nobody would know my situation if I did not tell either.
My symptoms include panic attacks!  I starting having those after my husband committed suicide; of course that was 10 years ago.  
Or is from my head injury I experienced at age 18?
I am now on Buspar, Abilify, and Celexa.  This is after a series of various other meds that just did not work ok with my system.  
I am thankful for my health today and the ability to say hi and hope all of you are well.
Love, Penny
(Staying sober and enjoying nature with walking...)
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penny by glideman
how do you know you have bipolar disorder? what were the symptoms? im just curious,ive been having alot of problems since september 2005 & no medication seems to work for me.where these same meds worked relly well before.im just curious if maybe ive been misdiagnosed.been having such a hard time with feeling really depressed but yet very anxious also.please e-mail me if possible harleystud05@msn.com. thanks for any help you can give.    (Tue Jun 27 22:36 2006)

sillygirl by glideman
hey babe,hows it going? i really miss you. havent heard from you & am wooried that your ok.   (Tue Jun 27 22:40 2006)

I'm doing ok right now. i'm taking your advise, i'm not talking about my problems so much, and ya know what? it does help. i think when i get into all the writing crap, it only makes things worse. or maybe ive wrote so much that ive worked through alot of stuff. sure i'm still nuts, but thats life. still taking the klonopin. not listening too much to all the horible stories about it. just doing what my doc ask me to do. still taking the buspar. i think it helps but i'm not quite sure. not gonna quit it to find out. i'm trying to keep myself busy. it helps to stay out of myself. i'm really trying hard not to say anything negative, because life is all good. like "they" (whoever they are) say, God never gives you more than you can handle.
please everyone out there please pray for Tiff. i cant say any more about it, just that she needs your prayers.
glideman, don't worry about me ok? its nive to have someone concerned about you, but honestly i'm ok. please email me more often. you can leave me messages on im if i'm not there and i will reply ok? love ya! HUGs to you babe!
Carolyn   (Wed Jun 28 15:44 2006)

glideman by incoherent bable
i dont understand the last 2 posts on this forum. is it some kind of code or something.it would appreciated if you could either share them with the rest of us or post somewhere else.   (Wed Jul 5 1:05 2006)

dont worry about the incoherent bable. someone obviously doesnt have the intellegence to use this forum. maybe he or she is sicker than we. anyways, im still in a funk. been 3 days now. its not horribly bad but it is uncomfortable. i try not to negative self talk cause it only brings me down more so. ive been so uncomfortable around people. well gotta go to work.
hugs
carolyn   (Wed Jul 5 15:11 2006)

Hi Glideman, sillygal and others,
I have had a very difficult week since my meds were changed.  I was apparently placed on too high a dose of Celexa with my usual Buspar.  YIKES!  I had to leave work several Xs, because I could not sit still and 'focus' on my job, or even just sit and stare into my computer.  It felt like I was a firecracker and simply could not "RELAX" very easily.  {No pun intended here.)
Gradually doing better this AM, since I have been reduced to 20mg instead of 40mg on Celexa, with 7.5mg Buspat morning and night.  Any similar experiences (?)
Hoping all is swell with each of you. This forum has helped me tremendously:]  
Thanks and God bless.
Penney   (Fri Jul 7 5:53 2006)

Im also having a somewhat difficult week. im not really depressed or i dont think i am but im not myself. im either irritated or got the blues. im still taking buspar and the klonopin . thank god for the klonopin. but i made an appointment to see my pshyc doc next friday, cause i think i may need anti depressants. im looking towards prozac cause i have a thing about my weight. giving me something thats gonna cause me to gain weight would be a mistake. im scared to even try anything. im only mild depressed so i dont know what the doc may do. but i do know its only getting worse. well, hugs to you!   (Fri Jul 7 14:47 2006)

hey you! where you at? i hope u are ok. i miss you.    (Fri Jul 7 14:49 2006)

glideman by penny
dont be too alarmed,i had the same reaction to celexa at too high a dose.doctors have a tendancy to give too high a dose,instead of waiting to see if the lower dose helps.im not a doctor,but am very familiar to all these meds.need to give 4-6 weeks at any does to see if gonna be effective.as long as it not too low of a dose.it is really best to start at the lowest theraputic dose for at least 2 weeks & then move up slowly.well thats what ive found anyway. i hope this helps .celexa & lexapro are really very good meds,in my oppinion anyways,for anxiety issues with depression.once you get passed the initial increased anxiety they tend to cause.
love & GOD bless to all.     (Sat Jul 8 10:54 2006)

This week was another challenge; however I realized this is ok and the first main component is to take care of myself.  I decided I really wanted "away" from my current employer so I interviewed for another position yesterday and landed another job.  Thanks to my Buspar med keeping my stable!!  I had the confidence to sit through a dual interview process.  This is a morale booster.  Staying sober - today I have 21 days.  Meds combination is much improved.  Have a great day & hugs to you.   (Fri Jul 14 7:06 2006)

There is too much weird babble on this forum, its getting on my nerves so please write to me at my email address i will respond to you. i feel unconfortable writing here anymore. click on my name and it will give you the info you need to write me. hugs to you,
Carolyn   (Wed Jul 19 15:36 2006)

i dont know why but my panic attacks didnt start until i had my daughter she is 10 yrs old and ive been on klonopin for 6 years and couldnt do anti depressents because they zoned me out.klonopin works fine but the older she gets i dont know if its her or me but i stay anxious all the time ..being a single mon really is tuff...they diagnosed me with bipolar and now my counselor says i just have panic disorder ...another doc sd a.d.d  im so confuse...i just want to focus longer than 5 min on something without my mind racing and i cant..buspar has been giving to me but i havent taken it on account im scared its going to wig me out as well.................whatever i wish i could get a true diagnoses...im confused   (Wed Jul 19 21:01 2006)

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wait gain by jewel
is there any thing for anxiety that want make you gain weight!i am taking bursbar..and effexor....please help............and i still am not any better.   (Sun Nov 19 0:22 2006)

I have been on seroquel , klonopin, and 60 mg buspar every day and I noticed when i was put on seroquel i began to eat like a pig and i gained 10 lbs in 8 weeks. so, for the past 5 days ive been on a strict diet. Im counting almost every calorie i eat and ive lost 4 or 5 lbs. ive also got myself a manual treadmill and i walk on it 10
minutes in the am and 5 minutes in the pm. it also helps with my anxiety alot. i wish i knew about the excersise thing to help with anxiety along time ago. it really does help but you got to start out slow. I hope this helps you jewel.
hugs to you!
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#52423 by glrizzz
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Im not sure if anyone is still on this site but need some advice if anyone is still here. My Doc wants to take me off colnazepam 0.5mg a day and put me on buspar. Im really nervous about this is buspar the same or am i just going to feel worse? Plus I heard buspar causes weight gain wich is one of the side effect i really dont ant. Anyone got some help os advce for me . It would be greatly appreciated thx   (Wed Apr 14 15:19 2010)

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